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Andrew,

> What works well with netdev is that the maintainers simply NACK the
> patches within a day and ask them to be submitted in smaller batches.
>
> In my opinion, part of being a Maintainer is educating patch
> submitters how the process should work and how best to present their
> work so that it can be reviewed. It takes a bit of effort, but the
> returns are worth it.

It's not for lack of trying. But the response typically that "our
internal process/version number/qual cycle/release schedule is more
important than getting the patches upstream".

I think that's probably more of an issue in SCSI than in other
subsystems due to enterprise manufacturer inertia...

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Martin K. Petersen	Oracle Linux Engineering