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From: Davide Libenzi <davidel@xmailserver.org>
To: Paolo Bonzini <bonzini@gnu.org>
Cc: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	gleb@redhat.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] eventfd: new EFD_STATE flag
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:21:20 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.0908211013520.25106@makko.or.mcafeemobile.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A8D8E35.7060606@gnu.org>

On Thu, 20 Aug 2009, Paolo Bonzini wrote:

> On 08/20/2009 07:44 PM, Davide Libenzi wrote:
> > On Thu, 20 Aug 2009, Avi Kivity wrote:
> > 
> > > On 08/20/2009 07:20 PM, Davide Libenzi wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > I briefly looked at this while in vacation, although I did not reply
> > > > hoping the horrible feeling about this code would go away.
> > > > It didn't.
> > > > I find this to be an ugly and ad-hoc multiplexing of eventfd with added
> > > > functionalities of questionable general use.
> > > > I'm pretty sure you can do better on KVM side, to solve the problem
> > > > w/out
> > > > littering eventfd.
> > > 
> > > While we could argue about this my feeling is that we should drop this, at
> > > least until we can quantify what benefit it has and whether there are any
> > > Davide-acceptable alternatives.
> > 
> > I really didn't mean to be harsh, but seriously, we cannot just have a
> > Multiplexing Feast over eventfd, with one-time users.
> 
> EFD_STATE actually does two changes: a) makes read block until the value
> changes; b) makes each write override the previous one.  How would you feel if
> the two changes were separated?

I'm afraid that splitting the change won't make less inappropriate for 
eventfd.
I've no doubt KVM needs something like this, but this just don't belong to 
eventfd, which act as either a mutex or a semaphore.
This EFD_STATE does not belong to a generic interface, proof of which is 
the lack of such abstraction in any generic library I'm aware of.
This aside from any consideration about how the code will look with that 
multiplexing in place.


- Davide



  reply	other threads:[~2009-08-21 17:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-08-20 15:56 [PATCH 0/2] eventfd: new EFD_STATE flag Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-08-20 16:20 ` Davide Libenzi
2009-08-20 17:38   ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-20 17:44     ` Davide Libenzi
2009-08-20 17:56       ` Paolo Bonzini
2009-08-21 17:21         ` Davide Libenzi [this message]
2009-08-20 17:55     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-08-20 18:06       ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-20 18:28         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-08-23 13:01           ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-23 13:36             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-08-23 13:40               ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-23 14:30                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-08-23 16:51                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2009-08-24 18:25                   ` Davide Libenzi
2009-08-24 18:31                     ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-24 22:08                       ` Davide Libenzi
2009-08-24 22:10                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2009-08-24 22:32                           ` Davide Libenzi
2009-08-25  6:59                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2009-08-25  4:26                         ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-24 21:49                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-08-24 22:15                       ` Davide Libenzi
2009-08-25  7:22                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-08-25 21:57                           ` Davide Libenzi
2009-08-26 10:29                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-08-26 10:41                               ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-26 17:45                               ` Davide Libenzi
2009-08-26 18:58                                 ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-26 19:13                                   ` Davide Libenzi
2009-08-26 19:42                                     ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-26 19:44                                       ` Davide Libenzi
2009-08-26 23:30                                         ` Davide Libenzi
2009-08-27  4:13                                           ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-27  8:06                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-08-27 14:20                                               ` Davide Libenzi
2009-08-26 19:50                                       ` Gleb Natapov
2009-08-26 20:04                                         ` Davide Libenzi
2009-08-27  5:25                                           ` Gleb Natapov
2009-08-27  9:05                                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2009-08-27  9:09                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-08-27 14:21                                       ` Davide Libenzi
2009-08-27 14:30                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-08-27 14:38                                           ` Davide Libenzi
2009-08-27 14:49                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-08-27 15:29                                               ` Davide Libenzi
2009-08-27 17:09                                                 ` Davide Libenzi
     [not found]                                                   ` <alpine.DEB.2.00.0908311644410.17349@makko.or.mcafeemobile.com>
     [not found]                                                     ` <4A9CB318.7030401@redhat.com>
     [not found]                                                       ` <alpine.DEB.2.00.0909010723380.28172@makko.or.mcafeemobile.com>
2010-01-06 19:33                                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-06 20:43                                                           ` Davide Libenzi
2010-01-06 20:55                                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-06 21:17                                                               ` Davide Libenzi
2010-01-06 22:29                                                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-06 22:46                                                                   ` Davide Libenzi
2010-01-06 23:45                                                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-06 23:59                                                                       ` Davide Libenzi
2010-01-07  0:02                                                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-07  6:45                                                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-07  7:25                                                                           ` Davide Libenzi
2010-01-07 10:36                                                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-07 23:37                                                                               ` Davide Libenzi
2010-01-08  0:13                                                                                 ` Davide Libenzi
2010-01-08  0:26                                                                               ` Davide Libenzi
2010-01-10 10:30                                                                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-10 15:26                                                                                   ` Davide Libenzi
2010-01-10 16:22                                                                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-10 17:27                                                                                       ` Davide Libenzi
2010-01-10 17:35                                                                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-10 19:04                                                                                           ` Davide Libenzi
2010-01-11  7:34                                                                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-11 19:14                                                                                               ` Davide Libenzi
2010-01-11 19:19                                                                                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-11 22:53                                                                                                   ` Davide Libenzi
2010-01-13 17:07                                                                                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-11  9:01                                                                               ` Gleb Natapov
2010-01-11  9:02                                                                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-11  9:08                                                                                   ` Gleb Natapov
2010-01-11  9:19                                                                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-11  9:36                                                                                       ` Gleb Natapov
2010-01-11  9:41                                                                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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