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From: Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Stephen Rothwell <sfr@canb.auug.org.au>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	x86@kernel.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@hmh.eng.br>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Ondrej Zary <linux@rainbow-software.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] apm: orphan the driver
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 23:19:16 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LNX.2.00.1103282309290.26754__21969.6735417985$1301348314$gmane$org@pobox.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimqE2YZCH5GonnqeHGGBwzggTymauS1KYuTsqOX@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, 28 Mar 2011, Linus Torvalds wrote:

> > Phasing out APM idle at least would be reasonable.  resumably even if the old
> > laptops still work they are likely on AC because their batteries have
> > long died. So using a bit more power in idle shouldn't be a big
> > issue.
> 
> Agreed. Especially since I'm not at all convinced that APM CPU idling
> ever really worked in the first place.
> 
> And as you say, it's not a catastrophic failure even if we were to
> remove it, and even if it were to have mattered on those old laptops
> years ago. I think we can happily say "not worth worrying about" when
> it comes to APM_CPU_IDLE.
> 
> And shutdown, suspend and screensaver should all be much easier to
> continue to support - they shouldn't have any serious infrastructure
> issues.

APM_CPU_IDLE removal doesn't really sound as a disaster, yes. I doubt 
anyone would even notice.

So deprecating it altogether with planned Len's code reshuffling seems 
like reasonable aproach to me.

_SUSPEND, poweroff and probably _STANDBY are the parts I would care much 
more about.

-- 
Jiri Kosina
SUSE Labs, Novell Inc.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-03-28 21:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-03-26  6:22 [PATCH] apm: orphan the driver Stephen Rothwell
2011-03-28 12:44 ` Jiri Kosina
2011-03-28 12:44 ` Jiri Kosina
2011-03-28 13:44   ` Stephen Rothwell
2011-03-28 13:44   ` Stephen Rothwell
2011-03-28 14:05     ` Jiri Kosina
2011-03-28 14:05     ` Jiri Kosina
2011-03-28 14:14       ` Joe Perches
2011-03-28 17:24         ` Jiri Kosina
2011-03-28 17:24         ` Jiri Kosina
2011-03-28 14:14       ` Joe Perches
2011-03-28 17:45       ` Andi Kleen
2011-03-28 17:45       ` Andi Kleen
2011-03-28 17:57         ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-03-28 18:21           ` Andi Kleen
2011-03-28 18:24             ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-03-28 18:24             ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-03-28 18:46             ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-28 18:46             ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-28 21:19               ` Jiri Kosina
2011-03-31  3:16                 ` [PATCH] x86 idle APM: delete apm_cpu_idle(), and its use of pm_idle Len Brown
2011-03-31  3:16                 ` Len Brown
2011-03-31  6:56                   ` Ingo Molnar
2011-03-31  6:56                   ` Ingo Molnar
2011-04-01  9:28                   ` Jiri Kosina
2011-04-01  9:28                   ` Jiri Kosina
2011-03-28 21:19               ` Jiri Kosina [this message]
2011-03-28 18:21           ` [PATCH] apm: orphan the driver Andi Kleen
2011-03-28 17:57         ` H. Peter Anvin
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-03-26  6:22 Stephen Rothwell

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