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From: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
To: Pierre-Louis Bossart <pierre-louis.bossart@linux.intel.com>
Cc: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
Subject: Re: [alsa-devel] [PATCH 6/8] ALSA: pcm: Add the support for sync-stop operation
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2019 19:47:59 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <s5hzhgtyqao.wl-tiwai@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bef3322e-5c5e-cc88-05ae-c6d13edf8bb5@linux.intel.com>

On Mon, 18 Nov 2019 17:33:51 +0100,
Pierre-Louis Bossart wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On 11/17/19 2:53 AM, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> > The standard programming model of a PCM sound driver is to process
> > snd_pcm_period_elapsed() from an interrupt handler.  When a running
> > stream is stopped, PCM core calls the trigger-STOP PCM ops, sets the
> > stream state to SETUP, and moves on to the next step.  This is
> > performed in an atomic manner -- this could be called from the interrupt
> > context, after all.
> >
> > The problem is that, if the stream goes further and reaches to the
> > CLOSE state immediately, the stream might be still being processed in
> > snd_pcm_period_elapsed() in the interrupt context, and hits a NULL
> > dereference.  Such a crash happens because of the atomic operation,
> > and we can't wait until the stream-stop finishes.
> >
> > For addressing such a problem, this commit adds a new PCM ops,
> > sync_stop.  This gets called at the appropriate places that need a
> > sync with the stream-stop, i.e. at hw_params, prepare and hw_free.
> >
> > Some drivers already have a similar mechanism implemented locally, and
> > we'll refactor the code later.
> 
> This rings a bell, for the SOF driver Keyon added a workqueue to avoid
> doing the call to snd_pcm_period_elapsed() while handling IPC
> interrupts. I believe the reason what that the IPC needs to be
> serialized, and the call to snd_pcm_period_elapsed could initiate a
> trigger stop IPC while we were dealing with an IPC, which broke the
> notion of serialization.
> 
> See "ASoC: SOF: PCM: add period_elapsed work to fix race condition in
> interrupt context"
> and "ASoC: SOF: ipc: use snd_sof_pcm_period_elapsed"

The new PCM ops is exactly for resolving such a thing.  Basically
snd_pcm_period_elapsed() is handled asynchronously, so we need the
synchronization.  For a simpler driver, it's merely synchronize_irq()
call (no matter whether it's a hard-irq or a threaded-irq), but for
drivers that deal with another async mechanism (e.g. USB-audio),
another sync procedure is required.

It's possible that the workaround you've done in SOF can be simplified
by this mechanism, but I didn't take a deeper look at it yet.


thanks,

Takashi
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Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-17  8:53 [alsa-devel] [PATCH 0/8] ALSA: pcm: API cleanups and extensions Takashi Iwai
2019-11-17  8:53 ` [alsa-devel] [PATCH 1/8] ALSA: pcm: Introduce managed buffer allocation mode Takashi Iwai
2019-11-18 16:24   ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-11-18 18:46     ` Takashi Iwai
2019-11-17  8:53 ` [alsa-devel] [PATCH 2/8] ALSA: docs: Update for " Takashi Iwai
2019-11-17  8:53 ` [alsa-devel] [PATCH 3/8] ALSA: pcm: Allow NULL ioctl ops Takashi Iwai
2019-11-17  8:53 ` [alsa-devel] [PATCH 4/8] ALSA: docs: Update document about the default PCM " Takashi Iwai
2019-11-17  8:53 ` [alsa-devel] [PATCH 5/8] ALSA: pcm: Move PCM_RUNTIME_CHECK() macro into local header Takashi Iwai
2019-11-17  9:42   ` kbuild test robot
2019-11-17 10:05     ` Takashi Iwai
2019-11-17 10:28   ` kbuild test robot
2019-11-17  8:53 ` [alsa-devel] [PATCH 6/8] ALSA: pcm: Add the support for sync-stop operation Takashi Iwai
2019-11-18 16:33   ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-11-18 18:47     ` Takashi Iwai [this message]
2019-11-17  8:53 ` [alsa-devel] [PATCH 7/8] ALSA: pcm: Add card sync_irq field Takashi Iwai
2019-11-18 16:38   ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-11-18 18:52     ` Takashi Iwai
2019-11-18 19:20       ` Sridharan, Ranjani
2019-11-18 19:49         ` Takashi Iwai
2019-11-18 19:55           ` Sridharan, Ranjani
2019-11-18 20:40             ` Takashi Iwai
2019-11-18 23:47               ` Ranjani Sridharan
2019-11-19  6:44                 ` Takashi Iwai
2019-11-19  7:40                   ` Ranjani Sridharan
2019-11-19  8:24                     ` Takashi Iwai
2019-11-19  9:39                       ` Takashi Iwai
2019-11-19 16:36                       ` Ranjani Sridharan
2019-11-19 21:27                         ` Takashi Iwai
2019-11-19 21:43                           ` Sridharan, Ranjani
2019-11-21 19:22                             ` Sridharan, Ranjani
2019-11-21 20:34                               ` Takashi Iwai
2019-11-21 20:46                                 ` Sridharan, Ranjani
2019-11-21 21:13                                   ` Takashi Iwai
2019-11-21 21:17                                     ` Sridharan, Ranjani
2019-11-21 21:28                                       ` Takashi Iwai
2019-11-21 21:45                                         ` Sridharan, Ranjani
2019-11-22  4:08                                     ` Jie, Yang
2019-11-17  8:53 ` [alsa-devel] [PATCH 8/8] ALSA: docs: Update about the new PCM sync_stop ops Takashi Iwai

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