From: Emmanuel Grumbach <egrumbach@gmail.com>
To: Brian Norris <briannorris@chromium.org>
Cc: aquini@redhat.com, peterz@infradead.org,
Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 12/15] ath10k: use new module_firmware_crashed()
Date: Fri, 22 May 2020 08:12:59 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CANUX_P2thzh9oB4KkrAoyT6H-E6MDFUNQ_p0e9QZtScgMuKm7Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+ASDXPAVJwyThAXRQT0_ao4s1nDYOEQifxMc+JsEMa=cTEGJA@mail.gmail.com>
>
> On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 10:37 PM Emmanuel Grumbach <egrumbach@gmail.com> wrote:
> > So I believe we already have this uevent, it is the devcoredump. All
> > we need is to add the unique id.
>
> I think there are a few reasons that devcoredump doesn't satisfy what
> either Luis or I want.
>
> 1) it can be disabled entirely [1], for good reasons (e.g., think of
> non-${CHIP_VENDOR} folks, who can't (and don't want to) do anything
> with the opaque dumps provided by closed-source firmware)
Ok, if all you're interested into is the information that this event
happen (as opposed to report a bug and providing the data), then I
agree. True, not everybody want or can enable devcoredump. I am just a
bit concerned that we may end up with two interface that notify the
same event basically. The ideal maybe would be to be able to
optionally reduce the content of the devoredump to nothing more that
is already in the dmesg output. But then, it is not what it is meant
to be: namely, a core dump..
> 2) not all drivers necessarily have a useful dump to provide when
> there's a crash; look at the rest of Luis's series to see the kinds of
> drivers-with-firmware that are crashing, some of which aren't dumping
> anything
Fair enouh.
> 3) for those that do support devcoredump, it may be used for purposes
> that are not "crashes" -- e.g., some provide debugfs or other knobs to
> initiate dumps, for diagnostic or debugging purposes
Not sure I really think we need to care about those cases, but you
already have 2 good arguments :)
>
> Brian
>
> [1] devcd_disabled
> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/drivers/base/devcoredump.c?h=v5.6#n22
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2020-05-15 21:28 ` [PATCH v2 12/15] ath10k: use new module_firmware_crashed() Luis Chamberlain
2020-05-16 4:11 ` Rafael Aquini
2020-05-16 13:24 ` Johannes Berg
2020-05-16 13:50 ` Johannes Berg
2020-05-18 16:56 ` Luis Chamberlain
2020-05-19 1:23 ` Brian Norris
2020-05-19 14:02 ` Luis Chamberlain
2020-05-20 0:47 ` Brian Norris
2020-05-20 5:37 ` Emmanuel Grumbach
2020-05-20 8:32 ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-05-21 19:01 ` Brian Norris
2020-05-22 5:12 ` Emmanuel Grumbach [this message]
2020-05-22 5:23 ` Luis Chamberlain
2020-05-18 16:51 ` Luis Chamberlain
2020-05-18 16:58 ` Ben Greear
2020-05-18 17:09 ` Luis Chamberlain
2020-05-18 17:15 ` Ben Greear
2020-05-18 17:18 ` Luis Chamberlain
2020-05-18 18:06 ` Steve deRosier
2020-05-18 19:09 ` Luis Chamberlain
2020-05-18 19:25 ` Johannes Berg
2020-05-18 19:59 ` Luis Chamberlain
2020-05-18 20:07 ` Johannes Berg
2020-05-18 21:18 ` Luis Chamberlain
2020-05-18 20:28 ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-05-18 20:29 ` Johannes Berg
2020-05-18 20:35 ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-05-18 20:41 ` Johannes Berg
2020-05-18 20:46 ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-05-18 21:22 ` Luis Chamberlain
2020-05-18 22:16 ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-05-19 1:05 ` Luis Chamberlain
2020-05-19 21:15 ` [RFC 1/2] devlink: add simple fw crash helpers Jakub Kicinski
2020-05-22 5:20 ` Luis Chamberlain
2020-05-22 17:17 ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-05-22 20:46 ` Johannes Berg
2020-05-22 21:51 ` Luis Chamberlain
2020-05-22 23:23 ` Steve deRosier
2020-05-22 23:44 ` Luis Chamberlain
2020-05-25 9:07 ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-05-25 17:08 ` Ben Greear
2020-05-25 20:57 ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-07-30 13:56 ` Johannes Berg
2020-05-22 21:49 ` Luis Chamberlain
2020-05-19 21:15 ` [RFC 2/2] i2400m: use devlink health reporter Jakub Kicinski
2020-05-15 21:28 ` [PATCH v2 13/15] ath6kl: use new module_firmware_crashed() Luis Chamberlain
2020-05-16 4:12 ` Rafael Aquini
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