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From: Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>
To: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Stanimir Varbanov <stanimir.varbanov@linaro.org>
Cc: linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, Jason Baron <jbaron@akamai.com>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Jim Cromie <jim.cromie@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/7] Documentation: dynamic-debug: Add description of level bitmask
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2020 09:58:07 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ba32bfa93ac2e147c2e0d3a4724815a7bbf41c59.camel@perches.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200609111615.GD780233@kroah.com>

On Tue, 2020-06-09 at 13:16 +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> What is wrong with the existing control of dynamic
> debug messages that you want to add another type of arbitrary grouping
> to it? 

There is no existing grouping mechanism.

Many drivers and some subsystems used an internal one
before dynamic debug.

$ git grep "MODULE_PARM.*\bdebug\b"|wc -l
501

This is an attempt to unify those homebrew mechanisms.

Stanimir attempted to add one for his driver via a
driver specific standardized format substring for level.

> And who defines that grouping?

Individual driver authors

> Will it be driver/subsystem/arch/author specific?  Or kernel-wide?

driver specific

> This feels like it could easily get out of hand really quickly.

Likely not.  A question might be how useful all these
old debugging printks are today and if it's reasonable
to just delete them.

> Why not just use tracepoints if you really want to be fine-grained?

Weight and lack of class/group capability



  reply	other threads:[~2020-06-09 16:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-09 10:45 [PATCH v3 0/7] Venus dynamic debug Stanimir Varbanov
2020-06-09 10:45 ` [PATCH v3 1/7] Documentation: dynamic-debug: Add description of level bitmask Stanimir Varbanov
2020-06-09 11:09   ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-06-09 11:16   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-06-09 16:58     ` Joe Perches [this message]
2020-06-09 17:42       ` Edward Cree
2020-06-09 17:56         ` Joe Perches
2020-06-09 18:08           ` Edward Cree
2020-06-10  6:31       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-06-10  6:35         ` Joe Perches
2020-06-10  7:09           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-06-10  7:24             ` Joe Perches
2020-06-10 10:29     ` Stanimir Varbanov
2020-06-10 12:26       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-06-09 10:45 ` [PATCH v3 2/7] dynamic_debug: Group debug messages by " Stanimir Varbanov
2020-06-09 12:27   ` Petr Mladek
2020-06-09 10:46 ` [PATCH v3 3/7] dev_printk: Add dev_dbg_level macro over dynamic one Stanimir Varbanov
2020-06-09 10:46 ` [PATCH v3 4/7] printk: Add pr_debug_level " Stanimir Varbanov
2020-06-09 11:12   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-06-09 10:46 ` [PATCH v3 5/7] venus: Add debugfs interface to set firmware log level Stanimir Varbanov
2020-06-09 11:12   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-06-11 11:51     ` Stanimir Varbanov
2020-06-09 10:46 ` [PATCH v3 6/7] venus: Make debug infrastructure more flexible Stanimir Varbanov
2020-06-09 11:14   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-06-10 13:29     ` Stanimir Varbanov
2020-06-10 13:37       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-06-10 19:49         ` Joe Perches
2020-06-10 20:23           ` Joe Perches
2020-06-11  6:26             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-06-11  6:42               ` Joe Perches
2020-06-11 10:52                 ` Daniel Thompson
2020-06-11 11:31                   ` Stanimir Varbanov
2020-06-11 12:18                     ` Daniel Thompson
2020-06-11 21:19                       ` jim.cromie
2020-06-11 21:59                         ` Jason Baron
2020-06-11 22:33                           ` Joe Perches
2020-06-12  0:08                         ` jim.cromie
2020-06-10 18:32   ` WIP generic module->debug_flags and dynamic_debug jim.cromie
2020-06-10 20:24     ` Joe Perches
2020-06-11 11:26     ` Rasmus Villemoes
2020-06-11 14:09       ` jim.cromie
2020-06-09 10:46 ` [PATCH v3 7/7] venus: Add a debugfs file for SSR trigger Stanimir Varbanov
2020-06-09 11:13 ` [PATCH v3 0/7] Venus dynamic debug Matthew Wilcox
2020-06-09 16:03   ` Randy Dunlap
2020-06-09 16:49     ` Joe Perches
2020-06-09 21:21       ` jim.cromie
2020-06-09 22:23         ` Joe Perches
2020-06-10  1:58           ` Joe Perches
2020-06-10  3:10           ` jim.cromie
2020-06-09 16:40 ` Joe Perches

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