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From: Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>
To: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>
Cc: "Björn Töpel" <bjorn.topel@gmail.com>,
	"Jiri Olsa" <jolsa@kernel.org>,
	"Alexei Starovoitov" <ast@kernel.org>,
	"Daniel Borkmann" <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	Netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>, bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Andrii Nakryiko" <andriin@fb.com>, "Yonghong Song" <yhs@fb.com>,
	"Song Liu" <songliubraving@fb.com>,
	"Martin KaFai Lau" <kafai@fb.com>,
	"Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
	"David Miller" <davem@redhat.com>,
	"Björn Töpel" <bjorn.topel@intel.com>,
	"John Fastabend" <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	"Jesper Dangaard Brouer" <hawk@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/14] bpf: Add trampoline and dispatcher to /proc/kallsyms
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2020 12:13:46 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200212111346.GF183981@krava> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200211193223.GI3416@kernel.org>

On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 04:32:23PM -0300, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo wrote:
> Em Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 05:17:51PM +0100, Jiri Olsa escreveu:
> > On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 04:51:08PM +0100, Björn Töpel wrote:
> > > On Sat, 8 Feb 2020 at 16:42, Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org> wrote:
> > > > this patchset adds trampoline and dispatcher objects
> > > > to be visible in /proc/kallsyms. The last patch also
> > > > adds sorting for all bpf objects in /proc/kallsyms.
> 
> > > Thanks for working on this!
> 
> > > I'm probably missing something with my perf setup; I've applied your
> > > patches, and everything seem to work fine from an kallsyms
> > > perspective:
> 
> > > # grep bpf_dispatcher_xdp /proc/kallsyms
> > > ...
> > > ffffffffc0511000 t bpf_dispatcher_xdp   [bpf]
> > > 
> > > However, when I run
> > > # perf top
> > > 
> > > I still see the undecorated one:
> > > 0.90%  [unknown]                  [k] 0xffffffffc0511037
> > > 
> > > Any ideas?
>  
> > yea strange.. it should be picked up from /proc/kallsyms as
> > fallback if there's no other source, I'll check on that
> > (might be the problem with perf depending on address going
> > only higher in /proc/kallsyms, while bpf symbols are at the
> > end and start over from the lowest bpf address)
> > 
> > anyway, in perf we enumerate bpf_progs via the perf events
> > PERF_BPF_EVENT_PROG_LOAD,PERF_BPF_EVENT_PROG_UNLOAD interface
> > together with PERF_RECORD_KSYMBOL_TYPE_BPF events
> > 
> > we might need to add something like:
> >   PERF_RECORD_KSYMBOL_TYPE_BPF_TRAMPOLINE
> >   PERF_RECORD_KSYMBOL_TYPE_BPF_DISPATCHER
> > 
> > to notify about the area, I'll check on that
> > 
> > however the /proc/kallsyms fallback should work in any
> > case.. thanks for report ;-)
> 
> We should by now move kallsyms to be the preferred source of symbols,
> not vmlinux, right?
> 
> Perhaps what is happening is:
> 
> [root@quaco ~]# strace -f -e open,openat -o /tmp/bla perf top
> [root@quaco ~]# grep vmlinux /tmp/bla
> 11013 openat(AT_FDCWD, "vmlinux", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
> 11013 openat(AT_FDCWD, "/boot/vmlinux", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
> 11013 openat(AT_FDCWD, "/boot/vmlinux-5.5.0+", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
> 11013 openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/lib/debug/boot/vmlinux-5.5.0+", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
> 11013 openat(AT_FDCWD, "/lib/modules/5.5.0+/build/vmlinux", O_RDONLY) = 152
> [root@quaco ~]#
> 
> I.e. it is using vmlinux for resolving symbols and he should try with:
> 
> [root@quaco ~]# strace -f -e open,openat -o /tmp/bla perf top --ignore-vmlinux
> [root@quaco ~]# perf top -h vmlinux
> 
>  Usage: perf top [<options>]
> 
>     -k, --vmlinux <file>  vmlinux pathname
>         --ignore-vmlinux  don't load vmlinux even if found
> 
> [root@quaco ~]# grep vmlinux /tmp/bla
> [root@quaco ~]#
> 
> Historically vmlinux was preferred because it contains function sizes,
> but with all these out of the blue symbols, we need to prefer starting
> with /proc/kallsyms and, as we do now, continue getting updates via
> PERF_RECORD_KSYMBOL.
> 
> Humm, but then trampolines don't generate that, right? Or does it? If it
> doesn't, then we will know about just the trampolines in place when the
> record/top session starts, reparsing /proc/kallsyms periodically seems
> excessive?

I plan to extend the KSYMBOL interface to contain trampolines/dispatcher
data, plus we could do some inteligent fallback to /proc/kallsyms in case
vmlinux won't have anything

jirka


  reply	other threads:[~2020-02-12 11:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-02-08 15:41 [PATCH 00/14] bpf: Add trampoline and dispatcher to /proc/kallsyms Jiri Olsa
2020-02-08 15:41 ` [PATCH 01/14] x86/mm: Rename is_kernel_text to __is_kernel_text Jiri Olsa
2020-02-08 15:41 ` [PATCH 02/14] bpf: Add bpf_trampoline_ name prefix for DECLARE_BPF_DISPATCHER Jiri Olsa
2020-02-08 15:41 ` [PATCH 03/14] bpf: Add struct bpf_ksym Jiri Olsa
2020-02-08 15:41 ` [PATCH 04/14] bpf: Add name to " Jiri Olsa
2020-02-08 15:42 ` [PATCH 05/14] bpf: Add lnode list node " Jiri Olsa
2020-02-08 15:42 ` [PATCH 06/14] bpf: Add bpf_kallsyms_tree tree Jiri Olsa
2020-02-11 18:21   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-02-12 10:49     ` Jiri Olsa
2020-02-08 15:42 ` [PATCH 07/14] bpf: Move bpf_tree add/del from bpf_prog_ksym_node_add/del Jiri Olsa
2020-02-08 15:42 ` [PATCH 08/14] bpf: Separate kallsyms add/del functions Jiri Olsa
2020-02-08 15:42 ` [PATCH 09/14] bpf: Add bpf_ksym_add/del functions Jiri Olsa
2020-02-08 15:42 ` [PATCH 10/14] bpf: Re-initialize lnode in bpf_ksym_del Jiri Olsa
2020-02-11 18:28   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-02-12 10:43     ` Jiri Olsa
2020-02-08 15:42 ` [PATCH 11/14] bpf: Rename bpf_tree to bpf_progs_tree Jiri Olsa
2020-02-08 15:42 ` [PATCH 12/14] bpf: Add trampolines to kallsyms Jiri Olsa
2020-02-11 18:51   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-02-12 11:10     ` Jiri Olsa
2020-02-12 16:33       ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-02-12 22:58         ` Jiri Olsa
2020-02-12 23:02         ` Jiri Olsa
2020-02-08 15:42 ` [PATCH 13/14] bpf: Add dispatchers " Jiri Olsa
2020-02-11 19:03   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-02-12 10:52     ` Jiri Olsa
2020-02-08 15:42 ` [PATCH 14/14] bpf: Sort bpf kallsyms symbols Jiri Olsa
2020-02-11 19:12   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-02-10 15:51 ` [PATCH 00/14] bpf: Add trampoline and dispatcher to /proc/kallsyms Björn Töpel
2020-02-10 16:17   ` Jiri Olsa
2020-02-11 19:32     ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2020-02-12 11:13       ` Jiri Olsa [this message]
2020-02-12 13:31         ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2020-02-12 22:40           ` Jiri Olsa
2020-02-13 16:23   ` Jiri Olsa
2020-02-11 19:13 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2020-02-12 10:46   ` Jiri Olsa

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