From: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
To: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@redhat.com>
Cc: Alexei Starovoitov <ast@fb.com>,
Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com>,
Andrii Nakryiko <andriin@fb.com>, bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>,
Networking <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
Kernel Team <kernel-team@fb.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next 0/3] Introduce pinnable bpf_link kernel abstraction
Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2020 07:47:59 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200304154757.3tydkiteg3vekyth@ast-mbp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87h7z44l3z.fsf@toke.dk>
On Wed, Mar 04, 2020 at 08:47:44AM +0100, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote:
> >
> >> And what about the case where the link fd is pinned on a bpffs that is
> >> no longer available? I.e., if a netdevice with an XDP program moves
> >> namespaces and no longer has access to the original bpffs, that XDP
> >> program would essentially become immutable?
> >
> > 'immutable' will not be possible.
> > I'm not clear to me how bpffs is going to disappear. What do you mean
> > exactly?
>
> # stat /sys/fs/bpf | grep Device
> Device: 1fh/31d Inode: 1013963 Links: 2
> # mkdir /sys/fs/bpf/test; ls /sys/fs/bpf
> test
> # ip netns add test
> # ip netns exec test stat /sys/fs/bpf/test
> stat: cannot stat '/sys/fs/bpf/test': No such file or directory
> # ip netns exec test stat /sys/fs/bpf | grep Device
> Device: 3fh/63d Inode: 12242 Links: 2
>
> It's a different bpffs instance inside the netns, so it won't have
> access to anything pinned in the outer one...
Toke, please get your facts straight.
> # stat /sys/fs/bpf | grep Device
> Device: 1fh/31d Inode: 1013963 Links: 2
Inode != 1 means that this is not bpffs.
I guess this is still sysfs.
> # mkdir /sys/fs/bpf/test; ls /sys/fs/bpf
> test
> # ip netns add test
> # ip netns exec test stat /sys/fs/bpf/test
> stat: cannot stat '/sys/fs/bpf/test': No such file or directory
> # ip netns exec test stat /sys/fs/bpf | grep Device
> Device: 3fh/63d Inode: 12242 Links: 2
This is your new sysfs after ip netns exec.
netns has nothing do with bpffs despite your claims.
Try this instead:
# mkdir /tmp/bpf
# mount -t bpf bpf /tmp/bpf
# stat /tmp/bpf|grep Device
Device: 1eh/30d Inode: 1 Links: 2
# stat -f /tmp/bpf|grep Type
ID: 0 Namelen: 255 Type: bpf_fs
# mkdir /tmp/bpf/test
# ip netns add my
# ip netns exec my stat /tmp/bpf|grep Device
Device: 1eh/30d Inode: 1 Links: 3
# ip netns exec my stat -f /tmp/bpf|grep Type
ID: 0 Namelen: 255 Type: bpf_fs
# ip netns exec my ls /tmp/bpf/
test
Having said that we do allow remounting bpffs on top of existing one:
# mount -t bpf bpf /var/aa
# mkdir /var/aa/bb
# stat -f /var/aa/bb|grep Type
ID: 0 Namelen: 255 Type: bpf_fs
# mount -t bpf bpf /var/aa
# stat -f /var/aa/bb|grep Type
stat: cannot read file system information for '/var/aa/bb': No such file or directory
# umount /var/aa
# stat -f /var/aa/bb|grep Type
ID: 0 Namelen: 255 Type: bpf_fs
Still that doesn't mean that pinned link is 'immutable'.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-03-04 15:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-02-28 22:39 [PATCH bpf-next 0/3] Introduce pinnable bpf_link kernel abstraction Andrii Nakryiko
2020-02-28 22:39 ` [PATCH bpf-next 1/3] bpf: introduce pinnable bpf_link abstraction Andrii Nakryiko
2020-03-02 10:13 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-03-02 18:06 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-03-02 21:40 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-03-02 23:37 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-03-03 2:50 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2020-03-03 4:18 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-02-28 22:39 ` [PATCH bpf-next 2/3] libbpf: add bpf_link pinning/unpinning Andrii Nakryiko
2020-03-02 10:16 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-03-02 18:09 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-03-02 21:45 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-02-28 22:39 ` [PATCH bpf-next 3/3] selftests/bpf: add link pinning selftests Andrii Nakryiko
2020-03-02 10:11 ` [PATCH bpf-next 0/3] Introduce pinnable bpf_link kernel abstraction Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-03-02 18:05 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-03-02 22:24 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-03-02 23:35 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-03-03 8:12 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-03-03 8:12 ` Daniel Borkmann
2020-03-03 15:46 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2020-03-03 19:23 ` Daniel Borkmann
2020-03-03 19:46 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-03-03 20:24 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-03-03 20:53 ` Daniel Borkmann
2020-03-03 22:01 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2020-03-03 22:27 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-03-04 4:36 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2020-03-04 7:47 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-03-04 15:47 ` Alexei Starovoitov [this message]
2020-03-05 10:37 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-03-05 16:34 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2020-03-05 22:34 ` Daniel Borkmann
2020-03-05 22:50 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2020-03-05 23:42 ` Daniel Borkmann
2020-03-06 8:31 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-03-06 10:25 ` Daniel Borkmann
2020-03-06 10:42 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-03-06 18:09 ` David Ahern
2020-03-04 19:41 ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-03-04 20:45 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2020-03-04 21:24 ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-03-05 1:07 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2020-03-05 8:16 ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-03-05 11:05 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-03-05 18:13 ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-03-09 11:41 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-03-09 18:50 ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-03-10 12:22 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-03-05 16:39 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2020-03-03 22:40 ` Jakub Kicinski
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