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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Josef Bacik <josef@toxicpanda.com>,
	lsf-pc <lsf-pc@lists.linuxfoundation.org>,
	Linux FS Devel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org,
	Btrfs BTRFS <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	bpf@vger.kernel.org, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [LSFMMBPF TOPIC] Killing LSFMMBPF
Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2020 14:06:18 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200306180618.GN31668@ziepe.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1583516279.3653.71.camel@HansenPartnership.com>

On Fri, Mar 06, 2020 at 09:37:59AM -0800, James Bottomley wrote:
> On Fri, 2020-03-06 at 08:05 -0800, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> [...]
> > 2. Charge attendees $300 for a 3-day conference.  This seems to be
> > the going rate (eg BSDCan, PGCon).  This allows the conference to be
> > self-funding without sponsors, and any sponsorship can go towards
> > evening events, food, travel bursaries, etc.
> 
> Can I just inject a dose of reality here:  The most costly thing is
> Venue rental (which comes with a F&B minimum) and the continuous Tea
> and Coffee.  Last year for Plumbers, the venue cost us $37k and the
> breaks $132k (including a lunch buffet, which was a requirement of the
> venue rental).  Given we had 500 attendees, that, alone is $340 per
> head already.  Now we could cut out the continuous tea and coffee ...
> and the espresso machines you all raved about last year cost us about
> $7 per shot.  But it's not just this, it's also AV (microphones and
> projectors) and recording, and fast internet access.  That all came to
> about $100k last year (or an extra $200 per head).  So you can see,
> running at the level Plumbers does you're already looking at $540 a
> head, which, co-incidentally is close to our attendee fee.  To get to
> $300 per head, you lot will have to give up something in addition to
> the espresso machines, what is it to be?

Yes, I can confirm this from another smaller hotel-style conference
I've been involved organizing on occasion. $600-$800 is required to
break even without major sponsorship $$ for the ~100 people mark, and
that is without the usual food and venue perks we see at
plumbers/lsfmm.

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2020-03-06 18:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-03-06 14:35 [LSFMMBPF TOPIC] Killing LSFMMBPF Josef Bacik
2020-03-06 15:29 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-03-06 15:30 ` [Lsf-pc] " Amir Goldstein
2020-03-06 15:55 ` Josef Bacik
2020-03-06 15:56 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2020-03-06 16:08   ` Josef Bacik
2020-03-06 19:48     ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2020-03-06 18:30   ` Rik van Riel
2020-03-07 18:54   ` [LSFMMBPF TOPIC] LSFMMBPF 2020 COVID-19 status update Luis Chamberlain
2020-03-07 19:00     ` Josef Bacik
2020-03-07 19:12     ` James Bottomley
2020-03-06 16:04 ` [LSFMMBPF TOPIC] Killing LSFMMBPF Nikolay Borisov
2020-03-06 16:05 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-03-06 17:04   ` Al Viro
2020-03-06 17:37   ` James Bottomley
2020-03-06 18:06     ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2020-03-06 19:07       ` Martin K. Petersen
2020-03-06 19:15         ` James Bottomley
2020-03-06 19:20           ` Martin K. Petersen
2020-03-06 18:23     ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-03-06 19:25       ` James Bottomley
2020-03-06 16:15 ` James Bottomley
2020-03-06 16:28   ` Christian Brauner
2020-03-06 16:31     ` Josef Bacik
2020-03-06 19:27 ` [LSFMMBPF TOPIC] long live LFSMMBPF Chris Mason
2020-03-06 19:41   ` James Bottomley
2020-03-06 19:56     ` Chris Mason
2020-03-06 20:25     ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2020-03-07  3:14 ` [LSFMMBPF TOPIC] Killing LSFMMBPF Steve French
2020-03-10 13:13 ` Michal Hocko
2020-03-10 13:40   ` Josef Bacik

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