From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: Saeed Mahameed <saeedm@mellanox.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v2 01/33] xdp: add frame size to xdp_buff
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 16:27:27 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200409162727.5f17d305@kicinski-fedora-PC1C0HJN> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7a92118a956a29bbc62373af43832e30a39225f5.camel@mellanox.com>
On Thu, 9 Apr 2020 23:07:42 +0000 Saeed Mahameed wrote:
> > My concern is that driver may allocate a full page for each frame but
> > only DMA map the amount that can reasonably contain data given the
> > MTU.
> > To save on DMA syncs.
> >
> > Today that wouldn't be a problem, because XDP_REDIRECT will re-map
> > the
> > page, and XDP_TX has the same MTU.
>
> I am not worried about dma at all, i am worried about the xdp progs
> which are now allowed to extend packets beyond the mtu and do XDP_TX.
> but as i am thinking about this i just realized that this can already
> happen with xdp_adjust_head()..
>
> but as you stated above this puts alot of assumptions on how driver
> should dma rx buffs
>
> > In this set xdp_data_hard_end is used both to find the end of memory
> > buffer, and end of DMA buffer. Implementation of
> > bpf_xdp_adjust_tail()
> > assumes anything < SKB_DATA_ALIGN(sizeof(struct skb_shared_info))
> > from
> > the end is fair game.
>
> but why skb_shared_info in particular though ? this assumes someone
> needs this tail for building skbs .. looks weird to me.
Fair, simplifies the internals, I guess.
> > So I was trying to say that we should warn driver authors that the
> > DMA
> > buffer can now grow / move beyond what the driver may expect in
> > XDP_TX.
>
> Ack, but can we do it by desing ? i.e instead of having hardcoded
> limits (e.g. SKB_DATA_ALIGN(shinfo)) in bpf_xdp_adjust_tail(), let the
> driver provide this, or any other restrictions, e.g mtu for tx, or
> driver specific memory model restrictions ..
Right, actually for NFP we need to add the check already - looking at
the code - the DMA mapping does not cover anything beyond the headroom +
MTU.
> > Drivers can either DMA map enough memory, or handle the corner case
> > in
> > a special way.
> >
> > IDK if that makes sense, we may be talking past each other :)
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2020-04-08 11:50 ` [PATCH RFC v2 01/33] xdp: add frame size to xdp_buff Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-04-08 17:53 ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-04-09 0:48 ` Saeed Mahameed
2020-04-09 1:13 ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-04-09 23:07 ` Saeed Mahameed
2020-04-09 23:27 ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2020-04-14 14:16 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-04-09 0:50 ` Saeed Mahameed
2020-04-16 13:02 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-04-17 23:09 ` Saeed Mahameed
2020-04-08 11:50 ` [PATCH RFC v2 02/33] bnxt: add XDP frame size to driver Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-04-08 11:50 ` [PATCH RFC v2 03/33] sfc: add XDP frame size Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-04-08 11:50 ` [PATCH RFC v2 04/33] mvneta: add XDP frame size to driver Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-04-08 11:50 ` [PATCH RFC v2 05/33] net: netsec: Add support for XDP frame size Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-04-08 13:09 ` Lorenzo Bianconi
2020-04-14 8:07 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-04-08 11:51 ` [PATCH RFC v2 06/33] net: XDP-generic determining " Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-04-08 11:51 ` [PATCH RFC v2 07/33] xdp: xdp_frame add member frame_sz and handle in convert_to_xdp_frame Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-04-08 11:51 ` [PATCH RFC v2 08/33] xdp: cpumap redirect use frame_sz and increase skb_tailroom Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-04-08 11:51 ` [PATCH RFC v2 09/33] veth: adjust hard_start offset on redirect XDP frames Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-04-08 11:51 ` [PATCH RFC v2 10/33] veth: xdp using frame_sz in veth driver Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-04-08 11:51 ` [PATCH RFC v2 11/33] dpaa2-eth: add XDP frame size Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-04-08 11:51 ` [PATCH RFC v2 12/33] hv_netvsc: add XDP frame size to driver Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-04-08 14:56 ` Haiyang Zhang
2020-04-08 11:51 ` [PATCH RFC v2 13/33] qlogic/qede: " Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-04-08 11:51 ` [PATCH RFC v2 14/33] net: ethernet: ti: add XDP frame size to driver cpsw Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-04-08 11:51 ` [PATCH RFC v2 15/33] ena: add XDP frame size to amazon NIC driver Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-04-22 8:39 ` Jubran, Samih
2020-04-08 11:51 ` [PATCH RFC v2 16/33] mlx4: add XDP frame size and adjust max XDP MTU Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-04-08 12:57 ` Tariq Toukan
2020-04-14 8:19 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-04-08 11:52 ` [PATCH RFC v2 17/33] mlx5: rx queue setup time determine frame_sz for XDP Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-04-08 12:52 ` Tariq Toukan
2020-04-16 12:04 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-04-09 9:28 ` Maxim Mikityanskiy
2020-04-08 11:52 ` [PATCH RFC v2 18/33] net: thunderx: add XDP frame size Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-04-08 11:52 ` [PATCH RFC v2 19/33] nfp: add XDP frame size to netronome driver Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-04-08 17:53 ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-04-14 14:02 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-04-08 11:52 ` [PATCH RFC v2 20/33] tun: add XDP frame size Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-04-08 11:52 ` [PATCH RFC v2 21/33] vhost_net: also populate " Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-04-08 11:52 ` [PATCH RFC v2 22/33] virtio_net: add XDP frame size in two code paths Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-04-08 11:52 ` [PATCH RFC v2 23/33] ixgbe: fix XDP redirect on archs with PAGE_SIZE above 4K Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-04-08 11:52 ` [PATCH RFC v2 24/33] ixgbe: add XDP frame size to driver Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-04-08 11:52 ` [PATCH RFC v2 25/33] ixgbevf: add XDP frame size to VF driver Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-04-08 11:52 ` [PATCH RFC v2 26/33] i40e: add XDP frame size to driver Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-04-08 21:48 ` David Miller
2020-04-14 10:16 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-04-08 11:52 ` [PATCH RFC v2 27/33] ice: " Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-04-08 11:52 ` [PATCH RFC v2 28/33] xdp: for Intel AF_XDP drivers add XDP frame_sz Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-04-08 17:31 ` Björn Töpel
2020-04-09 9:33 ` Maxim Mikityanskiy
2020-04-08 11:53 ` [PATCH RFC v2 29/33] xdp: allow bpf_xdp_adjust_tail() to grow packet size Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-04-09 3:31 ` Saeed Mahameed
2020-04-14 12:46 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-04-18 3:33 ` Saeed Mahameed
2020-04-14 9:56 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-04-14 10:11 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-04-08 11:53 ` [PATCH RFC v2 30/33] xdp: clear grow memory in bpf_xdp_adjust_tail() Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-04-08 21:49 ` David Miller
2020-04-14 9:43 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-04-08 11:53 ` [PATCH RFC v2 31/33] bpf: add xdp.frame_sz in bpf_prog_test_run_xdp() Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-04-08 11:53 ` [PATCH RFC v2 32/33] selftests/bpf: adjust BPF selftest for xdp_adjust_tail Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-04-08 11:53 ` [PATCH RFC v2 33/33] selftests/bpf: xdp_adjust_tail add grow tail tests Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-04-08 16:55 ` [PATCH RFC v2 00/33] XDP extend with knowledge of frame size Alexei Starovoitov
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