From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.8 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC608C388F9 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 2020 18:24:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A17320786 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 2020 18:24:03 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=networkplumber-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.i=@networkplumber-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.b="YjhR0VrS" Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1729542AbgKCSYB (ORCPT ); Tue, 3 Nov 2020 13:24:01 -0500 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:56040 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1729501AbgKCSYA (ORCPT ); Tue, 3 Nov 2020 13:24:00 -0500 Received: from mail-pf1-x435.google.com (mail-pf1-x435.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::435]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3F59EC0617A6 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 2020 10:24:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-pf1-x435.google.com with SMTP id 72so8279038pfv.7 for ; Tue, 03 Nov 2020 10:24:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=networkplumber-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=BNxKP04EVMUTaGOfOb9r5XgAOwx9E5YadlzRZT0Y6so=; b=YjhR0VrS28GIv8KwSH8dB1KfhwO7SIG7a2HMYl9iE3WhI7ncKYoGpjzRdiL9EKC6OU Y24baZovWzOLTjA3slfFKjJ7dqD/eN1POb6K5xlMjsgtsSoSiEBWAKw3o/yrPKc0IOyo PIoSlUkg8Wl7q9EKzm/efmOSeD4eJZEF1An2/v9g2bv3Pobg4L5vfM+OF4k+nQlaxEga 6YVIlCTgKFe8yTzS0/OgDGPsQ3uUBI7PjDsnNrlECnE9iOSwsgRDBTjGRYqgyOF/Id6X 0Bo0vImW08yQQBYsaCYw6HOSkU7NysFeBBlP94Fhls9WtN2AzyDoHcnNpxJpGJuavGX2 94Wg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=BNxKP04EVMUTaGOfOb9r5XgAOwx9E5YadlzRZT0Y6so=; b=TEXHwu53vocRLEjmG7itdgspdZTLAM+8KpCF/Eg3kQ7PNQipnz9UxbCxccDQr01gNG 1rN4Ac6oyJRpvQ7lr5S+xU7tDsyKS7LXIQ5sfksJ//VTm5HbxNERRUwwWlaWAWTmSE5P Av7qpWD8WZmtrJmvFaKTwU/+q4HzXrx98q3/kk+ya/ObiMHNy+L7KddEAPTM9HhZqWxN x0i09/zq2tl+IVLs7225vXUCwjEA1/Hm/Tu7uJP2hHw40CC8bTdaGAyyhQzey1xt1o1D V93U8uRdvedZB5MgYzT5SGMhatNpR5KJ8/dNj8JI00P6sK7z1+6TDS/GOdIvVX9zwt49 Cx8Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533CHObb1W9RvmrXsaT6M9Vlqq37phhNBttUjH/KaXyp/EExb3vG ZLOPluD/QL0a3vBU422ygKznSQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyTOrd/svwqOBTwp6j1WhlW8OupV70YCfTZHEabwFoFTI7yiCT03e0F2Grr6Kquu5HFk3s1Aw== X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:5e45:: with SMTP id u5mr469803pji.83.1604427839842; Tue, 03 Nov 2020 10:23:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from hermes.local (204-195-22-127.wavecable.com. [204.195.22.127]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id mv16sm7403pjb.36.2020.11.03.10.23.58 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 03 Nov 2020 10:23:59 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2020 10:23:51 -0800 From: Stephen Hemminger To: Alexei Starovoitov Cc: David Ahern , Daniel Borkmann , Andrii Nakryiko , Hangbin Liu , Alexei Starovoitov , Martin KaFai Lau , Song Liu , Yonghong Song , David Miller , Jesper Dangaard Brouer , Networking , bpf , Jiri Benc , Andrii Nakryiko , Toke =?UTF-8?B?SMO4aWxhbmQtSsO4cmdlbnNlbg==?= Subject: Re: [PATCHv3 iproute2-next 0/5] iproute2: add libbpf support Message-ID: <20201103102351.13a2bb9a@hermes.local> In-Reply-To: References: <20201028132529.3763875-1-haliu@redhat.com> <20201029151146.3810859-1-haliu@redhat.com> <646cdfd9-5d6a-730d-7b46-f2b13f9e9a41@gmail.com> <3306d19c-346d-fcbc-bd48-f141db26a2aa@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: bpf@vger.kernel.org On Tue, 3 Nov 2020 09:47:00 -0800 Alexei Starovoitov wrote: > On Tue, Nov 3, 2020 at 9:36 AM David Ahern wrote: > > > > On 11/3/20 1:46 AM, Daniel Borkmann wrote: > > > I thought last time this discussion came up there was consensus that the > > > submodule could be an explicit opt in for the configure script at least? > > > > I do not recall Stephen agreeing to that, and I certainly did not. > > Daniel, > > since David is deaf to technical arguments, > how about we fork iproute2 and maintain it separately? A submodule is not a practical viable option. Please come back when you are ready to use distro libbpf packages. This seems a microcosm of the Linux packaging problem that was discussed around Kubernetes and "vendorizaton"