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From: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
To: Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com>
Cc: Yonghong Song <yhs@fb.com>, Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
	bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>, Networking <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@fb.com>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	Kernel Team <kernel-team@fb.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 bpf-next 2/6] libbpf: rename static variables during linking
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2021 15:34:49 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210426223449.5njjmcjpu63chqbb@ast-mbp.dhcp.thefacebook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEf4BzZOmCgmbYDUGA-s5AF6XJFkT1xKinY3Jax3Zm2OLNmguA@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 08:44:04AM -0700, Andrii Nakryiko wrote:
> 
> >
> > > Static maps are slightly different, because we use SEC() which marks
> > > them as used, so they should always be present.
> >
> > yes. The used attribute makes the compiler keep the data,
> > but it can still inline it and lose the reference in the .text.
> 
> At least if the map is actually used with helpers (e.g.,
> bpf_map_lookup_elem(&map, ...)) it would be invalid for compiler to do
> anything crazy with that map reference, because compiler has no
> visibility into what opaque helpers do with that memory. So I don't
> think it can alias multiple maps, for instance. So I think static maps
> should be fine.

Yeah. That makes sense.

> See above about passing a pointer to map into black box functions. I'd
> bet that the compiler can't merge together two different references at
> least because of that.
> 
> For static maps, btw, just like for static functions and vars, there
> is no symbol, it's an offset into .maps section. We use that offset to
> identify the map itself.

Ok. Sounds like there is a desire to expose both static and static volatile
into skeleton.
Sure, but let's make it such the linking step doesn't change the skeleton.
Imagine a project that using single .bpf.c file and skeleton.
It grows and wants to split itself into multiple .bpf.c.
If such split would change the skeleton generated var/map names
it would be annoying user experience.

I see few options to avoid that:
- keeping the btf names as-is during linking
The final .o can have multiple vars and maps with the same name.
The skeleton gen can see the name collision and disambiguate them.
Here I think it's important to give users a choice. Blindly appending
file name is not ideal.
How to express it cleanly in .bpf.c? I don't know. SEC() would be a bit
ugly. May be similar to core flavors? ___1 and ___2 ? Also not ideal.
- another option is to fail skeleton gen if names conflict.
This way the users wold be able to link just fine and traditonal C style
linker behavior will be preserved, but if the user wants a skeleton
then the static map names across .bpf.c files shouldn't conflict.
imo that's reasonable restriction.
- maybe adopt __hidden for vars and maps? Only not hidden (which is default now)
would be seen in skeleton?

  reply	other threads:[~2021-04-26 22:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-23 18:53 [PATCH v2 bpf-next 0/6] BPF static linker: support static vars and maps Andrii Nakryiko
2021-04-23 18:53 ` [PATCH v2 bpf-next 1/6] bpftool: strip const/volatile/restrict modifiers from .bss and .data vars Andrii Nakryiko
2021-04-23 20:02   ` Yonghong Song
2021-04-23 18:53 ` [PATCH v2 bpf-next 2/6] libbpf: rename static variables during linking Andrii Nakryiko
2021-04-23 20:24   ` Yonghong Song
2021-04-23 21:38     ` Andrii Nakryiko
2021-04-23 21:56       ` Yonghong Song
2021-04-23 23:05         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2021-04-23 23:26           ` Yonghong Song
2021-04-23 23:35             ` Alexei Starovoitov
2021-04-23 23:35           ` Andrii Nakryiko
2021-04-23 23:48             ` Alexei Starovoitov
2021-04-24  0:13               ` Andrii Nakryiko
2021-04-24  0:22                 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2021-04-26 15:44                   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2021-04-26 22:34                     ` Alexei Starovoitov [this message]
2021-04-26 23:11                       ` Andrii Nakryiko
2021-04-27  2:22                         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2021-04-27 21:27                           ` Andrii Nakryiko
2021-04-28  4:55                             ` Alexei Starovoitov
2021-04-28 19:33                               ` Andrii Nakryiko
2021-05-04  4:42                                 ` bpf libraries and static variables. Was: " Alexei Starovoitov
2021-05-05  5:22                                   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2021-05-06 22:54                                     ` Daniel Borkmann
2021-05-11 17:57                                       ` Andrii Nakryiko
2021-05-11 18:05                                         ` Andrii Nakryiko
2021-05-11 14:20                                     ` Lorenz Bauer
2021-05-11 18:04                                       ` Andrii Nakryiko
2021-05-11 18:59                                     ` Andrii Nakryiko
2021-05-11 23:05                                       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2021-05-12 13:40                                         ` Lorenz Bauer
2021-05-12 18:50                                         ` Andrii Nakryiko
2021-05-12 23:39                                           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2021-05-13  8:37                                           ` Lorenz Bauer
2021-05-13 15:41                                             ` Alexei Starovoitov
2021-04-24  2:36                 ` Yonghong Song
2021-04-26 15:45                   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2021-04-26 16:34                     ` Yonghong Song
2021-04-23 18:53 ` [PATCH v2 bpf-next 3/6] libbpf: support static map definitions Andrii Nakryiko
2021-04-23 20:25   ` Yonghong Song
2021-04-23 18:53 ` [PATCH v2 bpf-next 4/6] bpftool: handle transformed static map names in BPF skeleton Andrii Nakryiko
2021-04-23 22:59   ` Yonghong Song
2021-04-23 18:53 ` [PATCH v2 bpf-next 5/6] selftests/bpf: extend linked_vars selftests with static variables Andrii Nakryiko
2021-04-23 23:03   ` Yonghong Song
2021-04-23 23:03   ` Yonghong Song
2021-04-23 18:53 ` [PATCH v2 bpf-next 6/6] selftests/bpf: extend linked_maps selftests with static maps Andrii Nakryiko
2021-04-23 23:11   ` Yonghong Song

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