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From: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
To: Yonghong Song <yhs@fb.com>
Cc: Alexei Starovoitov <ast@fb.com>,
	davem@davemloft.net, daniel@iogearbox.net, andrii@kernel.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, bpf@vger.kernel.org, kernel-team@fb.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 bpf-next 1/8] bpf: Introduce bpf timers.
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2021 18:39:55 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210629013953.xzbfxwyjj6qqhhxn@ast-mbp.dhcp.thefacebook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cfa10fa1-9ee4-95de-109d-a24cd5d43a98@fb.com>

On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 08:54:55AM -0700, Yonghong Song wrote:
> 
> 
> On 6/25/21 7:57 AM, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> > On 6/24/21 11:25 PM, Yonghong Song wrote:
> > > 
> > > > +
> > > > +    ____bpf_spin_lock(&timer->lock);
> > > 
> > > I think we may still have some issues.
> > > Case 1:
> > >    1. one bpf program is running in process context,
> > >       bpf_timer_start() is called and timer->lock is taken
> > >    2. timer softirq is triggered and this callback is called
> > 
> > ___bpf_spin_lock is actually irqsave version of spin_lock.
> > So this race is not possible.
> 
> Sorry I missed that ____bpf_spin_lock() has local_irq_save(),
> so yes. the above situation cannot happen.

Yeah. It was confusing. I'll add a comment.

> > 
> > > Case 2:
> > >    1. this callback is called, timer->lock is taken
> > >    2. a nmi happens and some bpf program is called (kprobe, tracepoint,
> > >       fentry/fexit or perf_event, etc.) and that program calls
> > >       bpf_timer_start()
> > > 
> > > So we could have deadlock in both above cases?
> > 
> > Shouldn't be possible either because bpf timers are not allowed
> > in nmi-bpf-progs. I'll double check that it's the case.
> > Pretty much the same restrictions are with bpf_spin_lock.
> 
> The patch added bpf_base_func_proto() to bpf_tracing_func_proto:
> 
> Also, we have some functions inside ____bpf_spin_lock() e.g.,
> bpf_prog_inc(), hrtimer_start(), etc. If we want to be absolutely safe,
> we need to mark them not tracable for kprobe/kretprobe/fentry/fexit/...
> But I am not sure whether this is really needed or not.

Probably not.
I'll add in_nmi() runtime check to prevent nmi and kprobes.

  reply	other threads:[~2021-06-29  1:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-24  2:25 [PATCH v3 bpf-next 0/8] bpf: Introduce BPF timers Alexei Starovoitov
2021-06-24  2:25 ` [PATCH v3 bpf-next 1/8] bpf: Introduce bpf timers Alexei Starovoitov
2021-06-25  6:25   ` Yonghong Song
2021-06-25 14:57     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2021-06-25 15:54       ` Yonghong Song
2021-06-29  1:39         ` Alexei Starovoitov [this message]
2021-06-25 16:54   ` Yonghong Song
2021-06-29  1:46     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2021-06-29  2:24       ` Yonghong Song
2021-06-29  3:32         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2021-06-29  6:34       ` Andrii Nakryiko
2021-06-29 13:28         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2021-06-30 10:08           ` Andrii Nakryiko
2021-06-30 17:38             ` Alexei Starovoitov
2021-07-01  5:40   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2021-07-01 11:51     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2021-07-01 15:34       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2021-06-24  2:25 ` [PATCH v3 bpf-next 2/8] bpf: Add map side support for " Alexei Starovoitov
2021-06-25 19:46   ` Yonghong Song
2021-06-29  1:49     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2021-06-24  2:25 ` [PATCH v3 bpf-next 3/8] bpf: Remember BTF of inner maps Alexei Starovoitov
2021-06-29  1:45   ` Yonghong Song
2021-06-24  2:25 ` [PATCH v3 bpf-next 4/8] bpf: Relax verifier recursion check Alexei Starovoitov
2021-06-24  2:25 ` [PATCH v3 bpf-next 5/8] bpf: Implement verifier support for validation of async callbacks Alexei Starovoitov
2021-06-24  2:25 ` [PATCH v3 bpf-next 6/8] bpf: Teach stack depth check about " Alexei Starovoitov
2021-06-24  2:25 ` [PATCH v3 bpf-next 7/8] selftests/bpf: Add bpf_timer test Alexei Starovoitov
2021-06-24  2:25 ` [PATCH v3 bpf-next 8/8] selftests/bpf: Add a test with bpf_timer in inner map Alexei Starovoitov
2021-06-24 11:27 ` [PATCH v3 bpf-next 0/8] bpf: Introduce BPF timers Toke Høiland-Jørgensen

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