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From: Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>
To: Matt Wu <wuqiang.matt@bytedance.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
	Daniel Xu <dxu@dxuuu.xyz>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, bpf@vger.kernel.org,
	kuba@kernel.org, mingo@redhat.com, ast@kernel.org,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	kernel-team@fb.com, yhs@fb.com, linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org,
	Abhishek Sagar <sagar.abhishek@gmail.com>,
	Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH -tip v8 11/13] x86/unwind: Recover kretprobe trampoline entry
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2021 13:57:15 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210712135715.756a60a1c9bee17689cf3f30@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9c160404-ad6d-816a-93ed-91bb6e7c26a9@bytedance.com>

On Sun, 11 Jul 2021 23:28:49 +0800
Matt Wu <wuqiang.matt@bytedance.com> wrote:

> On 2021/7/11 PM10:09, Masami Hiramatsu wrote:
> > On Wed, 7 Jul 2021 22:42:47 +0800
> > Matt Wu <wuqiang.matt@bytedance.com> wrote:
> > 
> >> On 2021/7/7 PM9:29, Masami Hiramatsu wrote:
> >>> On Wed, 7 Jul 2021 19:45:30 +0900
> >>> Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Wed, 7 Jul 2021 12:20:57 +0200
> >>>> Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Wed, Jul 07, 2021 at 07:15:10PM +0900, Masami Hiramatsu wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I actually don't want to keep this feature because no one use it.
> >>>>>> (only systemtap needs it?)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Yeah, you mentioned systemtap, but since that's out-of-tree I don't
> >>>>> care. Their problem.
> >>>
> >>> Yeah, maybe it is not hard to update.
> >>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Anyway, if we keep the idea-level compatibility (not code level),
> >>>>>> what we need is 'void *data' in the struct kretprobe_instance.
> >>>>>> User who needs it can allocate their own instance data for their
> >>>>>> kretprobes when initialising it and sets in their entry handler.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Then we can have a simple kretprobe_instance.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> When would you do the alloc? When installing the retprobe, but that
> >>>>> might be inside the allocator, which means you can't call the allocator
> >>>>> etc.. :-)
> >>>>
> >>>> Yes, so the user may need to allocate a pool right before register_kretprobe().
> >>>> (whether per-kretprobe or per-task or global pool, that is user's choice.)
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If we look at struct ftrace_ret_stack, it has a few fixed function
> >>>>> fields. The calltime one is all that is needed for the kretprobe
> >>>>> example code.
> >>>>
> >>>> kretprobe consumes 3 fields, a pointer to 'struct kretprobe' (which
> >>>> stores callee function address in 'kretprobe::kp.addr'), a return
> >>>> address and a frame pointer (*).
> >>>   > Oops, I forgot to add "void *data" for storing user data.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Should use "struct kretprobe_holder *rph", since "struct kretprobe" belongs
> >> to 3rd-party module (which might be unloaded any time).
> > 
> > Good catch. Yes, instead of 'struct kretprobe', we need to use the holder.
> > 
> >> User's own pool might not work if the module can be unloaded. Better manage
> >> the pool in kretprobe_holder, which needs no changes from user side.
> > 
> > No, since the 'data' will be only refered from user handler. If the kretprobe
> > is released, then the kretprobe_holder will clear the refernce to the 'struct
> > kretprobe'. Then, the user handler is never called. No one access the 'data'.
> 
> Indeed, there is no race of "data" accessing, since unregister_kretprobes()
> is taking care of it.
> 
> This implementation just increases the complexity of caller to keep track
> of all allocated instances and release them after unregistration.

Yes, but user can manage it with an array of pointers (or directly allocate
an array of their desired data). Not hard to track it in that case.

> But guys are likely to use kmalloc in pre-handler and kfree in post-handler,
> which will lead to memory leaks.

I will note "do not allocate memory inside kprobe handler" on manual.
I think that's all what we need. We cannot stop someone shooting their feet
especially in the kernel...

Thank you,

-- 
Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>

  reply	other threads:[~2021-07-12  4:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-18  7:05 [PATCH -tip v8 00/13] kprobes: Fix stacktrace with kretprobes on x86 Masami Hiramatsu
2021-06-18  7:05 ` [PATCH -tip v8 01/13] ia64: kprobes: Fix to pass correct trampoline address to the handler Masami Hiramatsu
2021-07-05  7:46   ` Ingo Molnar
2021-07-05 10:05     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2021-06-18  7:05 ` [PATCH -tip v8 02/13] kprobes: treewide: Replace arch_deref_entry_point() with dereference_symbol_descriptor() Masami Hiramatsu
2021-07-05  7:48   ` Ingo Molnar
2021-07-05 12:03     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2021-07-07 18:28   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2021-07-08  4:08     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2021-06-18  7:05 ` [PATCH -tip v8 03/13] kprobes: treewide: Remove trampoline_address from kretprobe_trampoline_handler() Masami Hiramatsu
2021-07-05  7:03   ` Ingo Molnar
2021-07-05 10:03     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2021-07-05  7:49   ` Ingo Molnar
2021-06-18  7:05 ` [PATCH -tip v8 04/13] kprobes: Add kretprobe_find_ret_addr() for searching return address Masami Hiramatsu
2021-07-05  7:42   ` Ingo Molnar
2021-07-05 14:11     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2021-06-18  7:06 ` [PATCH -tip v8 05/13] x86/kprobes: Add UNWIND_HINT_FUNC on kretprobe_trampoline code Masami Hiramatsu
2021-07-05  8:02   ` Ingo Molnar
2021-07-09 15:31     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2021-07-10  1:41       ` Masami Hiramatsu
2021-07-10 19:01         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2021-07-10 19:24           ` [PATCH 1/2] objtool: Add frame-pointer-specific function ignore Josh Poimboeuf
2021-07-11  1:16             ` Masami Hiramatsu
2021-07-29  2:31             ` Masami Hiramatsu
2021-07-10 19:25           ` [PATCH 2/2] objtool: Ignore unwind hints for ignored functions Josh Poimboeuf
2021-07-11  2:07             ` Masami Hiramatsu
2021-06-18  7:06 ` [PATCH -tip v8 06/13] ARC: Add instruction_pointer_set() API Masami Hiramatsu
2021-06-18  7:06 ` [PATCH -tip v8 07/13] ia64: " Masami Hiramatsu
2021-06-18  7:06 ` [PATCH -tip v8 08/13] arm: kprobes: Make a space for regs->ARM_pc at kretprobe_trampoline Masami Hiramatsu
2021-07-05  8:04   ` Ingo Molnar
2021-07-05 14:40     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2021-06-18  7:06 ` [PATCH -tip v8 09/13] kprobes: Enable stacktrace from pt_regs in kretprobe handler Masami Hiramatsu
2021-06-18 14:04   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2021-06-18  7:06 ` [PATCH -tip v8 10/13] x86/kprobes: Push a fake return address at kretprobe_trampoline Masami Hiramatsu
2021-07-05  8:17   ` Ingo Molnar
2021-07-09 14:55     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2021-06-18  7:07 ` [PATCH -tip v8 11/13] x86/unwind: Recover kretprobe trampoline entry Masami Hiramatsu
2021-07-05 11:36   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-07-05 15:42     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2021-07-06  7:55       ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-07-06 15:11         ` Steven Rostedt
2021-07-07  8:20           ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-07-07  8:36             ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-07-07 10:15             ` Masami Hiramatsu
2021-07-07 10:20               ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-07-07 10:45                 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2021-07-07 13:29                   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2021-07-07 14:42                     ` Matt Wu
2021-07-11 14:09                       ` Masami Hiramatsu
2021-07-11 15:28                         ` Matt Wu
2021-07-12  4:57                           ` Masami Hiramatsu [this message]
2021-06-18  7:07 ` [PATCH -tip v8 12/13] tracing: Show kretprobe unknown indicator only for kretprobe_trampoline Masami Hiramatsu
2021-06-18  7:07 ` [PATCH -tip v8 13/13] x86/kprobes: Fixup return address in generic trampoline handler Masami Hiramatsu
2021-07-05  8:34   ` Ingo Molnar
2021-07-06 12:57     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2021-06-18 17:44 ` [PATCH -tip v8 00/13] kprobes: Fix stacktrace with kretprobes on x86 Andrii Nakryiko
2021-06-28 13:50 ` Masami Hiramatsu

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