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From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@redhat.com>
Cc: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>,
	Zvi Effron <zeffron@riotgames.com>,
	Lorenz Bauer <lmb@cloudflare.com>,
	Lorenzo Bianconi <lbianconi@redhat.com>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	Network Development <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Redux: Backwards compatibility for XDP multi-buff
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2021 15:51:18 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210921155118.439c0aa9@kicinski-fedora-pc1c0hjn.dhcp.thefacebook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87czp13718.fsf@toke.dk>

On Wed, 22 Sep 2021 00:20:19 +0200 Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote:
> >> Neither of those are desirable outcomes, I think; and if we add a
> >> separate "XDP multi-buff" switch, we might as well make it system-wide?  
> >
> > If we have an internal flag 'this driver supports multi-buf xdp' cannot we
> > make xdp_redirect to linearize in case the packet is being redirected
> > to non multi-buf aware driver (potentially with corresponding non mb aware xdp
> > progs attached) from mb aware driver?  
> 
> Hmm, the assumption that XDP frames take up at most one page has been
> fundamental from the start of XDP. So what does linearise mean in this
> context? If we get a 9k packet, should we dynamically allocate a
> multi-page chunk of contiguous memory and copy the frame into that, or
> were you thinking something else?

My $.02 would be to not care about redirect at all.

It's not like the user experience with redirect is anywhere close 
to amazing right now. Besides (with the exception of SW devices which
will likely gain mb support quickly) mixed-HW setups are very rare.
If the source of the redirect supports mb so will likely the target.

  reply	other threads:[~2021-09-21 22:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-21 16:06 Redux: Backwards compatibility for XDP multi-buff Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2021-09-21 17:31 ` Zvi Effron
2021-09-21 18:22   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2021-09-21 19:17     ` Zvi Effron
2021-09-21 22:14       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2021-09-21 23:10         ` Zvi Effron
2021-09-22 20:13           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2021-09-21 20:12     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2021-09-21 22:20       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2021-09-21 22:51         ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2021-09-22 20:01           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2021-09-22 21:23             ` Zvi Effron
2021-09-23 18:45               ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2021-09-23 13:46             ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-09-27 12:43               ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2021-09-21 22:54 ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-09-22 20:02   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2021-09-22 21:11     ` Zvi Effron
2021-09-23 19:00       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2021-09-23 10:33 ` Lorenz Bauer
2021-09-23 12:59   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2021-09-24 10:18     ` Lorenz Bauer
2021-09-24 17:55       ` Zvi Effron
2021-09-24 19:38       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2021-09-28  8:47         ` Lorenz Bauer
2021-09-28 13:43           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen

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