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From: Martin KaFai Lau <kafai@fb.com>
To: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@redhat.com>
Cc: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
	Song Liu <songliubraving@fb.com>, Yonghong Song <yhs@fb.com>,
	John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	KP Singh <kpsingh@kernel.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	Jesper Dangaard Brouer <hawk@kernel.org>,
	Network Development <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next v7 1/3] bpf: Add "live packet" mode for XDP in bpf_prog_run()
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2022 23:19:52 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220211071952.t7e6shipuc5shblv@kafai-mbp.dhcp.thefacebook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAADnVQLk6TLdA7EG8TKGHM_R93GgQf76J60PEJohjup8JaP+Xw@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 05:37:54PM -0800, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 9, 2022 at 4:30 AM Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > I left that out on purpose: I feel it's exposing an internal
> > implementation detail as UAPI (as you said). And I'm not convinced it
> > really needed (or helpful) - see below.
> 
> It's irrelevant whether it's documented or not.
> Once this implementation detail is being relied upon
> by user space it becomes an undocumented uapi that we cannot change.
> 
> > I'll try implementing a TCP stream mode in xdp_trafficgen just to make
> > sure I'm not missing something. But I believe that sending out a stream
> > of packets that looks like a coherent TCP stream should be simple
> > enough, at least. Dealing with the full handshake + CWND control loop
> > will be harder, though, and right now I think it'll require multiple
> > trips back to userspace.
> 
> The patch set looks very close to being able to do such TCP streaming.
> Let's make sure nothing is missing from API before we land it.
Hi Toke,  I am also looking at ways to blast tcp packets by using
bpf to overcome the pktgen udp-only limitation.
Are you planning to respin with a TCP stream mode in xdp_trafficgen ?
Thanks !

  reply	other threads:[~2022-02-11  7:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-07 21:54 [PATCH bpf-next v7 0/3] Add support for transmitting packets using XDP in bpf_prog_run() Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-01-07 21:54 ` [PATCH bpf-next v7 1/3] bpf: Add "live packet" mode for " Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-01-08  2:44   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-01-08 13:19     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-01-08 19:28       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-01-08 20:19         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-01-09  2:24           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-01-09 12:30             ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-01-13  1:37               ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-02-11  7:19                 ` Martin KaFai Lau [this message]
2022-02-11 16:03                   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-01-07 21:54 ` [PATCH bpf-next v7 2/3] selftests/bpf: Move open_netns() and close_netns() into network_helpers.c Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-01-07 21:54 ` [PATCH bpf-next v7 3/3] selftests/bpf: Add selftest for XDP_REDIRECT in bpf_prog_run() Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-01-08 19:32   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-01-08 20:29     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen

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