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From: Yonghong Song <yhs@fb.com>
To: Alexei Starovoitov <ast@fb.com>, Martin KaFai Lau <kafai@fb.com>
Cc: Andrii Nakryiko <andriin@fb.com>, <bpf@vger.kernel.org>,
	<netdev@vger.kernel.org>, Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	<kernel-team@fb.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next v1 03/19] bpf: add bpf_map iterator
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 22:09:13 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7f15274d-46dd-f43f-575e-26a40032f900@fb.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <65a83b48-3965-5ae9-fafd-3e8836b03d2c@fb.com>



On 4/28/20 7:44 PM, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> On 4/28/20 6:15 PM, Yonghong Song wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 4/28/20 5:48 PM, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
>>> On 4/28/20 5:37 PM, Martin KaFai Lau wrote:
>>>>> +    prog = bpf_iter_get_prog(seq, sizeof(struct 
>>>>> bpf_iter_seq_map_info),
>>>>> +                 &meta.session_id, &meta.seq_num,
>>>>> +                 v == (void *)0);
>>>>  From looking at seq_file.c, when will show() be called with "v == 
>>>> NULL"?
>>>>
>>>
>>> that v == NULL here and the whole verifier change just to allow NULL...
>>> may be use seq_num as an indicator of the last elem instead?
>>> Like seq_num with upper bit set to indicate that it's last?
>>
>> We could. But then verifier won't have an easy way to verify that.
>> For example, the above is expected:
>>
>>       int prog(struct bpf_map *map, u64 seq_num) {
>>          if (seq_num >> 63)
>>            return 0;
>>          ... map->id ...
>>          ... map->user_cnt ...
>>       }
>>
>> But if user writes
>>
>>       int prog(struct bpf_map *map, u64 seq_num) {
>>           ... map->id ...
>>           ... map->user_cnt ...
>>       }
>>
>> verifier won't be easy to conclude inproper map pointer tracing
>> here and in the above map->id, map->user_cnt will cause
>> exceptions and they will silently get value 0.
> 
> I mean always pass valid object pointer into the prog.
> In above case 'map' will always be valid.
> Consider prog that iterating all map elements.
> It's weird that the prog would always need to do
> if (map == 0)
>    goto out;
> even if it doesn't care about finding last.
> All progs would have to have such extra 'if'.
> If we always pass valid object than there is no need
> for such extra checks inside the prog.
> First and last element can be indicated via seq_num
> or via another flag or via helper call like is_this_last_elem()
> or something.

Okay, I see what you mean now. Basically this means
seq_ops->next() should try to get/maintain next two elements,
otherwise, we won't know whether the one in seq_ops->show()
is the last or not. We could do it in newly implemented
iterator bpf_map/task/task_file. Let me check how I could
make existing seq_ops (ipv6_route/netlink) works with
minimum changes.

  reply	other threads:[~2020-04-29  5:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-27 20:12 [PATCH bpf-next v1 00/19] bpf: implement bpf iterator for kernel data Yonghong Song
2020-04-27 20:12 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 01/19] net: refactor net assignment for seq_net_private structure Yonghong Song
2020-04-29  5:38   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-04-27 20:12 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 02/19] bpf: implement an interface to register bpf_iter targets Yonghong Song
2020-04-28 16:20   ` Martin KaFai Lau
2020-04-28 16:50     ` Yonghong Song
2020-04-27 20:12 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 03/19] bpf: add bpf_map iterator Yonghong Song
2020-04-29  0:37   ` Martin KaFai Lau
2020-04-29  0:48     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2020-04-29  1:15       ` Yonghong Song
2020-04-29  2:44         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2020-04-29  5:09           ` Yonghong Song [this message]
2020-04-29  6:08             ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-04-29  6:20               ` Yonghong Song
2020-04-29  6:30                 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2020-04-29  6:40                   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-04-29  6:44                     ` Yonghong Song
2020-04-29 15:34                       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2020-04-29 18:14                         ` Yonghong Song
2020-04-29 19:19                         ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-04-29 20:15                           ` Yonghong Song
2020-04-30  3:06                             ` Alexei Starovoitov
2020-04-30  4:01                               ` Yonghong Song
2020-04-29  6:34                 ` Martin KaFai Lau
2020-04-29  6:51                   ` Yonghong Song
2020-04-29 19:25                     ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-04-29  1:02     ` Yonghong Song
2020-04-29  6:04   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-04-27 20:12 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 04/19] bpf: allow loading of a bpf_iter program Yonghong Song
2020-04-29  0:54   ` Martin KaFai Lau
2020-04-29  1:27     ` Yonghong Song
2020-04-27 20:12 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 05/19] bpf: support bpf tracing/iter programs for BPF_LINK_CREATE Yonghong Song
2020-04-29  1:17   ` [Potential Spoof] " Martin KaFai Lau
2020-04-29  6:25   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-04-27 20:12 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 06/19] bpf: support bpf tracing/iter programs for BPF_LINK_UPDATE Yonghong Song
2020-04-29  1:32   ` Martin KaFai Lau
2020-04-29  5:04     ` Yonghong Song
2020-04-29  5:58       ` Martin KaFai Lau
2020-04-29  6:32         ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-04-29  6:41           ` Martin KaFai Lau
2020-04-27 20:12 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 07/19] bpf: create anonymous bpf iterator Yonghong Song
2020-04-29  5:39   ` Martin KaFai Lau
2020-04-29  6:56   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-04-29  7:06     ` Yonghong Song
2020-04-29 18:16       ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-04-29 18:46         ` Martin KaFai Lau
2020-04-29 19:20           ` Yonghong Song
2020-04-29 20:50             ` Martin KaFai Lau
2020-04-29 20:54               ` Yonghong Song
2020-04-29 19:39   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-04-27 20:12 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 08/19] bpf: create file " Yonghong Song
2020-04-29 20:40   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-04-30 18:02     ` Yonghong Song
2020-04-27 20:12 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 09/19] bpf: add PTR_TO_BTF_ID_OR_NULL support Yonghong Song
2020-04-29 20:46   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-04-29 20:51     ` Yonghong Song
2020-04-27 20:12 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 10/19] bpf: add netlink and ipv6_route targets Yonghong Song
2020-04-28 19:49   ` kbuild test robot
2020-04-28 19:50   ` [RFC PATCH] bpf: __bpf_iter__netlink() can be static kbuild test robot
2020-04-27 20:12 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 11/19] bpf: add task and task/file targets Yonghong Song
2020-04-30  2:08   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-05-01 17:23     ` Yonghong Song
2020-05-01 19:01       ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-04-27 20:12 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 12/19] bpf: add bpf_seq_printf and bpf_seq_write helpers Yonghong Song
2020-04-28  6:02   ` kbuild test robot
2020-04-28 16:35     ` Yonghong Song
2020-04-30 20:06       ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-04-27 20:12 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 13/19] bpf: handle spilled PTR_TO_BTF_ID properly when checking stack_boundary Yonghong Song
2020-04-27 20:12 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 14/19] bpf: support variable length array in tracing programs Yonghong Song
2020-04-30 20:04   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-04-27 20:12 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 15/19] tools/libbpf: add bpf_iter support Yonghong Song
2020-04-30  1:41   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-05-02  7:17     ` Yonghong Song
2020-04-27 20:12 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 16/19] tools/bpftool: add bpf_iter support for bptool Yonghong Song
2020-04-28  9:27   ` Quentin Monnet
2020-04-28 17:35     ` Yonghong Song
2020-04-29  8:37       ` Quentin Monnet
2020-04-27 20:12 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 17/19] tools/bpf: selftests: add iterator programs for ipv6_route and netlink Yonghong Song
2020-04-30  2:12   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-04-27 20:12 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 18/19] tools/bpf: selftests: add iter progs for bpf_map/task/task_file Yonghong Song
2020-04-27 20:12 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 19/19] tools/bpf: selftests: add bpf_iter selftests Yonghong Song

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