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From: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
To: Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com>
Cc: Hao Luo <haoluo@google.com>, Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	KP Singh <kpsingh@kernel.org>, bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next v2 2/3] bpf: Introduce ARG_PTR_TO_WRITABLE_MEM
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2021 10:59:46 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAADnVQJQuZ9pP_T_ZDgoeTnqfPcRMcKM_BshBTpmsZiRmzWMgA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEf4BzbvXQ1qpGazNKCBhzUUPmmfe9d9icDtf++weJkJmme0aw@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Oct 25, 2021 at 10:14 PM Andrii Nakryiko
<andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Instead of adding new types,
> > can we do something like this instead:
> >
> > diff --git a/include/linux/bpf_verifier.h b/include/linux/bpf_verifier.h
> > index c8a78e830fca..5dbd2541aa86 100644
> > --- a/include/linux/bpf_verifier.h
> > +++ b/include/linux/bpf_verifier.h
> > @@ -68,7 +68,8 @@ struct bpf_reg_state {
> >                         u32 btf_id;
> >                 };
> >
> > -               u32 mem_size; /* for PTR_TO_MEM | PTR_TO_MEM_OR_NULL */
> > +               u32 rd_mem_size; /* for PTR_TO_MEM | PTR_TO_MEM_OR_NULL */
> > +               u32 wr_mem_size; /* for PTR_TO_MEM | PTR_TO_MEM_OR_NULL */
>
> This seems more confusing, it's technically possible to express a
> memory pointer from which you can read X bytes, but can write Y bytes.

I'm fine it being a new flag instead of wr_mem_size.

> I actually liked the idea that helpers will be explicit about whether
> they can write into a memory or only read from it.
>
> Apart from a few more lines of code, are there any downsides to having
> PTR_TO_MEM vs PTR_TO_RDONLY_MEM?

because it's a churn and non scalable long term.
It's not just PTR_TO_RDONLY_MEM.
It's also ARG_PTR_TO_RDONLY_MEM,
and RET_PTR_TO_RDONLY_MEM,
and PTR_TO_RDONLY_MEM_OR_NULL
and *_OR_BTF_ID,
and *_OR_BTF_ID_OR_NULL.
It felt that expressing readonly-ness as a flag in bpf_reg_state
will make it easier to get right in the code and extend in the future.
May be we will have a kernel vs user flag for PTR_TO_MEM in the future.
If we use different name to express that we will have:
PTR_TO_USER_RDONLY_MEM and
PTR_TO_USER_MEM
plus all variants of ARG_* and RET_* and *_OR_NULL.
With a flag approach it will be just another flag in bpf_reg_state.

  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-26 17:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-25 23:12 [PATCH bpf-next v2 0/3] bpf: Prevent writing read-only memory Hao Luo
2021-10-25 23:12 ` [PATCH bpf-next 1/3] bpf: Prevent write to ksym memory Hao Luo
2021-10-25 23:12 ` [PATCH bpf-next v2 2/3] bpf: Introduce ARG_PTR_TO_WRITABLE_MEM Hao Luo
2021-10-26  3:48   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2021-10-26  5:14     ` Andrii Nakryiko
2021-10-26 17:59       ` Alexei Starovoitov [this message]
2021-10-26 18:13         ` Hao Luo
2021-10-26 18:44         ` Andrii Nakryiko
2021-10-26 19:22           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2021-10-26 21:24             ` Andrii Nakryiko
2021-10-26  5:06   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2021-10-26 17:51     ` Hao Luo
2021-10-26 18:53       ` Andrii Nakryiko
2021-10-26 20:00         ` Hao Luo
2021-10-25 23:12 ` [PATCH bpf-next v2 3/3] bpf/selftests: Test PTR_TO_RDONLY_MEM Hao Luo

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