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From: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
To: Xuan Zhuo <xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	 Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	 "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	 Jesper Dangaard Brouer <hawk@kernel.org>,
	John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	 virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, bpf@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v1 00/19] virtio-net: support AF_XDP zero copy
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2023 14:26:01 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACGkMEu4tSHd4RVo0zEp1A6uM-6h42y+yAB2xzHTv8SzYdZPXQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1697522771.0390663-2-xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com>

On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 2:17 PM Xuan Zhuo <xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 17 Oct 2023 13:27:47 +0800, Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 11:28 AM Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 11:26 AM Xuan Zhuo <xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, 17 Oct 2023 11:20:41 +0800, Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 11:11 AM Xuan Zhuo <xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, 17 Oct 2023 10:53:44 +0800, Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 8:00 PM Xuan Zhuo <xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ## AF_XDP
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > XDP socket(AF_XDP) is an excellent bypass kernel network framework. The zero
> > > > > > > > copy feature of xsk (XDP socket) needs to be supported by the driver. The
> > > > > > > > performance of zero copy is very good. mlx5 and intel ixgbe already support
> > > > > > > > this feature, This patch set allows virtio-net to support xsk's zerocopy xmit
> > > > > > > > feature.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > At present, we have completed some preparation:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 1. vq-reset (virtio spec and kernel code)
> > > > > > > > 2. virtio-core premapped dma
> > > > > > > > 3. virtio-net xdp refactor
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > So it is time for Virtio-Net to complete the support for the XDP Socket
> > > > > > > > Zerocopy.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Virtio-net can not increase the queue num at will, so xsk shares the queue with
> > > > > > > > kernel.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On the other hand, Virtio-Net does not support generate interrupt from driver
> > > > > > > > manually, so when we wakeup tx xmit, we used some tips. If the CPU run by TX
> > > > > > > > NAPI last time is other CPUs, use IPI to wake up NAPI on the remote CPU. If it
> > > > > > > > is also the local CPU, then we wake up napi directly.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > This patch set includes some refactor to the virtio-net to let that to support
> > > > > > > > AF_XDP.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ## performance
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ENV: Qemu with vhost-user(polling mode).
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Sockperf: https://github.com/Mellanox/sockperf
> > > > > > > > I use this tool to send udp packet by kernel syscall.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > xmit command: sockperf tp -i 10.0.3.1 -t 1000
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I write a tool that sends udp packets or recvs udp packets by AF_XDP.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >                   | Guest APP CPU |Guest Softirq CPU | UDP PPS
> > > > > > > > ------------------|---------------|------------------|------------
> > > > > > > > xmit by syscall   |   100%        |                  |   676,915
> > > > > > > > xmit by xsk       |   59.1%       |   100%           | 5,447,168
> > > > > > > > recv by syscall   |   60%         |   100%           |   932,288
> > > > > > > > recv by xsk       |   35.7%       |   100%           | 3,343,168
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Any chance we can get a testpmd result (which I guess should be better
> > > > > > > than PPS above)?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Do you mean testpmd + DPDK + AF_XDP?
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes.
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yes. This is probably better because my tool does more work. That is not a
> > > > > > complete testing tool used by our business.
> > > > >
> > > > > Probably, but it would be appealing for others. Especially considering
> > > > > DPDK supports AF_XDP PMD now.
> > > >
> > > > OK.
> > > >
> > > > Let me try.
> > > >
> > > > But could you start to review firstly?
> > >
> > > Yes, it's in my todo list.
> >
> > Speaking too fast, I think if it doesn't take too long time, I would
> > wait for the result first as netdim series. One reason is that I
> > remember claims to be only 10% to 20% loss comparing to wire speed, so
> > I'd expect it should be much faster. I vaguely remember, even a vhost
> > can gives us more than 3M PPS if we disable SMAP, so the numbers here
> > are not as impressive as expected.
>
>
> What is SMAP? Cloud you give me more info?

Supervisor Mode Access Prevention

Vhost suffers from this.

>
> So if we think the 3M as the wire speed, you expect the result
> can reach 2.8M pps/core, right?

It's AF_XDP that claims to be 80% if my memory is correct. So a
correct AF_XDP implementation should not sit behind this too much.

> Now the recv result is 2.5M(2463646) pps/core.
> Do you think there is a huge gap?

You never describe your testing environment in details. For example,
is this a virtual environment? What's the CPU model and frequency etc.

Because I never see a NIC whose wire speed is 3M.

>
> My tool makes udp packet and lookup route, so it take more much cpu.

That's why I suggest you to test raw PPS.

Thanks

>
> I am confused.
>
>
> What is SMAP? Could you give me more information?
>
> So if we use 3M as the wire speed, you would expect the result to be 2.8M
> pps/core, right?
>
> Now the recv result is 2.5M (2463646 = 3,343,168/1.357) pps/core. Do you think
> the difference is big?
>
> My tool makes udp packets and looks up routes, so it requires more CPU.
>
> I'm confused. Is there something I misunderstood?
>
> Thanks.
>
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What I noticed is that the hotspot is the driver writing virtio desc. Because
> > > > > > the device is in busy mode. So there is race between driver and device.
> > > > > > So I modified the virtio core and lazily updated avail idx. Then pps can reach
> > > > > > 10,000,000.
> > > > >
> > > > > Care to post a draft for this?
> > > >
> > > > YES, I is thinking for this.
> > > > But maybe that is just work for split. The packed mode has some troubles.
> > >
> > > Ok.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ## maintain
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I am currently a reviewer for virtio-net. I commit to maintain AF_XDP support in
> > > > > > > > virtio-net.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Please review.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > v1:
> > > > > > > >     1. remove two virtio commits. Push this patchset to net-next
> > > > > > > >     2. squash "virtio_net: virtnet_poll_tx support rescheduled" to xsk: support tx
> > > > > > > >     3. fix some warnings
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Xuan Zhuo (19):
> > > > > > > >   virtio_net: rename free_old_xmit_skbs to free_old_xmit
> > > > > > > >   virtio_net: unify the code for recycling the xmit ptr
> > > > > > > >   virtio_net: independent directory
> > > > > > > >   virtio_net: move to virtio_net.h
> > > > > > > >   virtio_net: add prefix virtnet to all struct/api inside virtio_net.h
> > > > > > > >   virtio_net: separate virtnet_rx_resize()
> > > > > > > >   virtio_net: separate virtnet_tx_resize()
> > > > > > > >   virtio_net: sq support premapped mode
> > > > > > > >   virtio_net: xsk: bind/unbind xsk
> > > > > > > >   virtio_net: xsk: prevent disable tx napi
> > > > > > > >   virtio_net: xsk: tx: support tx
> > > > > > > >   virtio_net: xsk: tx: support wakeup
> > > > > > > >   virtio_net: xsk: tx: virtnet_free_old_xmit() distinguishes xsk buffer
> > > > > > > >   virtio_net: xsk: tx: virtnet_sq_free_unused_buf() check xsk buffer
> > > > > > > >   virtio_net: xsk: rx: introduce add_recvbuf_xsk()
> > > > > > > >   virtio_net: xsk: rx: introduce receive_xsk() to recv xsk buffer
> > > > > > > >   virtio_net: xsk: rx: virtnet_rq_free_unused_buf() check xsk buffer
> > > > > > > >   virtio_net: update tx timeout record
> > > > > > > >   virtio_net: xdp_features add NETDEV_XDP_ACT_XSK_ZEROCOPY
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >  MAINTAINERS                                 |   2 +-
> > > > > > > >  drivers/net/Kconfig                         |   8 +-
> > > > > > > >  drivers/net/Makefile                        |   2 +-
> > > > > > > >  drivers/net/virtio/Kconfig                  |  13 +
> > > > > > > >  drivers/net/virtio/Makefile                 |   8 +
> > > > > > > >  drivers/net/{virtio_net.c => virtio/main.c} | 652 +++++++++-----------
> > > > > > > >  drivers/net/virtio/virtio_net.h             | 359 +++++++++++
> > > > > > > >  drivers/net/virtio/xsk.c                    | 545 ++++++++++++++++
> > > > > > > >  drivers/net/virtio/xsk.h                    |  32 +
> > > > > > > >  9 files changed, 1247 insertions(+), 374 deletions(-)
> > > > > > > >  create mode 100644 drivers/net/virtio/Kconfig
> > > > > > > >  create mode 100644 drivers/net/virtio/Makefile
> > > > > > > >  rename drivers/net/{virtio_net.c => virtio/main.c} (91%)
> > > > > > > >  create mode 100644 drivers/net/virtio/virtio_net.h
> > > > > > > >  create mode 100644 drivers/net/virtio/xsk.c
> > > > > > > >  create mode 100644 drivers/net/virtio/xsk.h
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > 2.32.0.3.g01195cf9f
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> >
>


  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-17  6:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-16 12:00 [PATCH net-next v1 00/19] virtio-net: support AF_XDP zero copy Xuan Zhuo
2023-10-16 12:00 ` [PATCH net-next v1 01/19] virtio_net: rename free_old_xmit_skbs to free_old_xmit Xuan Zhuo
2023-10-19  4:17   ` Jason Wang
2023-10-16 12:00 ` [PATCH net-next v1 02/19] virtio_net: unify the code for recycling the xmit ptr Xuan Zhuo
2023-10-19  4:23   ` Jason Wang
2023-10-16 12:00 ` [PATCH net-next v1 03/19] virtio_net: independent directory Xuan Zhuo
2023-10-19  6:10   ` Jason Wang
2023-10-16 12:00 ` [PATCH net-next v1 04/19] virtio_net: move to virtio_net.h Xuan Zhuo
2023-10-19  6:12   ` Jason Wang
2023-10-19  7:16     ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-10-20  6:59       ` Jason Wang
2023-10-16 12:00 ` [PATCH net-next v1 05/19] virtio_net: add prefix virtnet to all struct/api inside virtio_net.h Xuan Zhuo
2023-10-19  6:14   ` Jason Wang
2023-10-19  6:36     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-16 12:00 ` [PATCH net-next v1 06/19] virtio_net: separate virtnet_rx_resize() Xuan Zhuo
2023-10-19  6:17   ` Jason Wang
2023-10-16 12:00 ` [PATCH net-next v1 07/19] virtio_net: separate virtnet_tx_resize() Xuan Zhuo
2023-10-19  6:18   ` Jason Wang
2023-10-16 12:00 ` [PATCH net-next v1 08/19] virtio_net: sq support premapped mode Xuan Zhuo
2023-10-20  6:50   ` Jason Wang
2023-10-20  7:16     ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-10-16 12:00 ` [PATCH net-next v1 09/19] virtio_net: xsk: bind/unbind xsk Xuan Zhuo
2023-10-20  6:51   ` Jason Wang
2023-10-20  7:28     ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-10-16 12:00 ` [PATCH net-next v1 10/19] virtio_net: xsk: prevent disable tx napi Xuan Zhuo
2023-10-20  6:51   ` Jason Wang
2023-10-16 12:00 ` [PATCH net-next v1 11/19] virtio_net: xsk: tx: support tx Xuan Zhuo
2023-10-20  6:52   ` Jason Wang
2023-10-20  8:06     ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-10-16 12:00 ` [PATCH net-next v1 12/19] virtio_net: xsk: tx: support wakeup Xuan Zhuo
2023-10-20  6:52   ` Jason Wang
2023-10-20  8:09     ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-10-16 12:00 ` [PATCH net-next v1 13/19] virtio_net: xsk: tx: virtnet_free_old_xmit() distinguishes xsk buffer Xuan Zhuo
2023-10-16 23:44   ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-10-17  2:02     ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-10-19  6:38       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-19  7:13         ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-10-19  8:42           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-16 12:00 ` [PATCH net-next v1 14/19] virtio_net: xsk: tx: virtnet_sq_free_unused_buf() check " Xuan Zhuo
2023-10-20  6:53   ` Jason Wang
2023-10-16 12:00 ` [PATCH net-next v1 15/19] virtio_net: xsk: rx: introduce add_recvbuf_xsk() Xuan Zhuo
2023-10-20  6:56   ` Jason Wang
2023-10-23  6:56     ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-10-16 12:00 ` [PATCH net-next v1 16/19] virtio_net: xsk: rx: introduce receive_xsk() to recv xsk buffer Xuan Zhuo
2023-10-20  6:57   ` Jason Wang
2023-10-23  2:39     ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-11-15  2:35     ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-10-16 12:00 ` [PATCH net-next v1 17/19] virtio_net: xsk: rx: virtnet_rq_free_unused_buf() check " Xuan Zhuo
2023-10-16 12:00 ` [PATCH net-next v1 18/19] virtio_net: update tx timeout record Xuan Zhuo
2023-10-20  6:57   ` Jason Wang
2023-10-16 12:00 ` [PATCH net-next v1 19/19] virtio_net: xdp_features add NETDEV_XDP_ACT_XSK_ZEROCOPY Xuan Zhuo
2023-10-17  2:53 ` [PATCH net-next v1 00/19] virtio-net: support AF_XDP zero copy Jason Wang
2023-10-17  3:02   ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-10-17  3:20     ` Jason Wang
2023-10-17  3:22       ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-10-17  3:28         ` Jason Wang
2023-10-17  5:27           ` Jason Wang
2023-10-17  6:06             ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-10-17  6:26               ` Jason Wang [this message]
2023-10-17  6:43                 ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-10-17 11:19                   ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-10-18  2:46                     ` Jason Wang
2023-10-18  2:56                       ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-10-18  3:32                     ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-10-18  3:40                       ` Jason Wang
2023-10-18  1:02                   ` Jason Wang

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