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From: Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com>
To: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
Cc: Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>, bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	Kernel Team <kernel-team@fb.com>,
	Alan Maguire <alan.maguire@oracle.com>,
	Dave Marchevsky <davemarchevsky@fb.com>
Subject: Re: program local storage. Was: [PATCH bpf-next 1/7] libbpf: add BPF-side of USDT support
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2022 13:13:39 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAEf4Bza9_L=biSu_G_ux9vgn05LVTLVdfpfi3P_XH421SeH_4g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAADnVQLkYb6NiEq=bkP_AC4pj8OFC1achC8m9UdEhwWp4ahrFw@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Mar 31, 2022 at 11:34 AM Alexei Starovoitov
<alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Mar 24, 2022 at 10:30 PM Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org> wrote:
> > +
> > +struct __bpf_usdt_arg_spec {
> > +       __u64 val_off;
> > +       enum __bpf_usdt_arg_type arg_type;
> > +       short reg_off;
> > +       bool arg_signed;
> > +       char arg_bitshift;
> > +};
> > +
> > +/* should match USDT_MAX_ARG_CNT in usdt.c exactly */
> > +#define BPF_USDT_MAX_ARG_CNT 12
> > +struct __bpf_usdt_spec {
> > +       struct __bpf_usdt_arg_spec args[BPF_USDT_MAX_ARG_CNT];
> > +       __u64 usdt_cookie;
> > +       short arg_cnt;
> > +};
> > +
> > +__weak struct {
> > +       __uint(type, BPF_MAP_TYPE_ARRAY);
> > +       __uint(max_entries, BPF_USDT_MAX_SPEC_CNT);
> > +       __type(key, int);
> > +       __type(value, struct __bpf_usdt_spec);
> > +} __bpf_usdt_specs SEC(".maps");
> > +
> > +__weak struct {
> > +       __uint(type, BPF_MAP_TYPE_HASH);
> > +       __uint(max_entries, BPF_USDT_MAX_IP_CNT);
> > +       __type(key, long);
> > +       __type(value, struct __bpf_usdt_spec);
> > +} __bpf_usdt_specs_ip_to_id SEC(".maps");
> ...
>
> > +
> > +/* Fetch USDT argument *arg* (zero-indexed) and put its value into *res.
> > + * Returns 0 on success; negative error, otherwise.
> > + * On error *res is guaranteed to be set to zero.
> > + */
> > +__hidden __weak
> > +int bpf_usdt_arg(struct pt_regs *ctx, int arg, long *res)
> > +{
> > +       struct __bpf_usdt_spec *spec;
> > +       struct __bpf_usdt_arg_spec *arg_spec;
> > +       unsigned long val;
> > +       int err, spec_id;
> > +
> > +       *res = 0;
> > +
> > +       spec_id = __bpf_usdt_spec_id(ctx);
> > +       if (spec_id < 0)
> > +               return -ESRCH;
> > +
> > +       spec = bpf_map_lookup_elem(&__bpf_usdt_specs, &spec_id);
> > +       if (!spec)
> > +               return -ESRCH;
> > +
> > +       if (arg >= spec->arg_cnt)
> > +               return -ENOENT;
> > +
> > +       arg_spec = &spec->args[arg];
> > +       switch (arg_spec->arg_type) {
>
> Without bpf_cookie in the kernel each arg access is two lookups.
> With bpf_cookie it's a single lookup in an array that is fast.
> Multiply that cost by number of args.
> Not a huge cost, but we can do better long term.
>
> How about annotating bpf_cookie with PTR_TO_BTF_ID at prog load time.
> So that bpf_get_attach_cookie() returns PTR_TO_BTF_ID instead of long.
> This way bpf_get_attach_cookie() can return
> "struct __bpf_usdt_spec *".
>
> At attach time libbpf will provide populated 'struct __bpf_usdt_spec'
> to the kernel and the kernel will copy the struct's data
> in the bpf_link.
> At detach time that memory is freed.
>
> Advantages:
> - saves an array lookup at runtime
> - no need to provide size for __bpf_usdt_specs map.
>   That map is no longer needed.
>   users don't need to worry about maxing out BPF_USDT_MAX_SPEC_CNT.
> - libbpf doesn't need to populate __bpf_usdt_specs map
>   libbpf doesn't need to allocate spec_id-s.
>   libbpf will keep struct __bpf_usdt_spec per uprobe and
>   pass it to the kernel at attach time to store in bpf_link.
>
> "cookie as ptr_to_btf_id" is a generic mechanism to provide a
> blob of data to the bpf prog instead of a single "long".
> That blob can be read/write too.
> It can be used as per-program + per-attach point scratch area.
> Similar to task/inode local storage...
> That would be (prog, attach_point) local storage.
>
> Thoughts?

Well, I'm not concerned about ARRAY lookup, as it is inlined and very
fast. Sizing maps is hard and annoying, true, but I think we should
eventually just have resizable or dynamically-sized BPF maps, which
will be useful in a lot of other contexts.

We've had a discussion about a cookie that's bigger than 8 bytes with
Daniel. I argued for simplicity and I still like it. If you think we
should add blobs per attachment, it's fine, but let's keep it separate
from the BPF cookie.

As for the PTR_TO_BTF_ID, I'm a bit confused, as kernel doesn't know
__bpf_usdt_spec type, it's not part of vmlinux BTF, so you are
proposing to have PTR_TO_BTF_ID that points to user-provided type? I'm
not sure I see how exactly that will work from the verifier's
standpoint, tbh. At least I don't see how verifier can allow more than
just giving direct memory access to a memory buffer. But then each
uprobe attachment can have differently-sized blob, so statically
verifying that during program load time is impossible.

In any case, I don't think we should wait for any extra kernel
functionality to add USDT support. If we have some of those and they
bring noticeable benefits, we can opportunistically use them, if the
kernel is recent enough.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-03-31 20:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-25  5:29 [PATCH bpf-next 0/7] Add libbpf support for USDTs Andrii Nakryiko
2022-03-25  5:29 ` [PATCH bpf-next 1/7] libbpf: add BPF-side of USDT support Andrii Nakryiko
2022-03-30  3:10   ` Hengqi Chen
2022-03-30 15:22     ` Hengqi Chen
2022-03-31  5:44       ` Andrii Nakryiko
2022-03-30 15:36     ` Hengqi Chen
2022-03-31  5:48       ` Andrii Nakryiko
2022-03-31  5:44     ` Andrii Nakryiko
2022-03-31 11:30   ` Alan Maguire
2022-03-31 18:49     ` Andrii Nakryiko
2022-03-31 20:52       ` Andrii Nakryiko
2022-03-31 18:34   ` program local storage. Was: " Alexei Starovoitov
2022-03-31 20:13     ` Andrii Nakryiko [this message]
2022-04-01  0:38       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-04-01 16:56         ` Andrii Nakryiko
2022-03-25  5:29 ` [PATCH bpf-next 2/7] libbpf: wire up USDT API and bpf_link integration Andrii Nakryiko
2022-03-30  3:24   ` Hengqi Chen
2022-03-31  5:56     ` Andrii Nakryiko
2022-03-31 12:13   ` Alan Maguire
2022-03-31 19:02     ` Andrii Nakryiko
2022-03-25  5:29 ` [PATCH bpf-next 3/7] libbpf: add USDT notes parsing and resolution logic Andrii Nakryiko
2022-03-31 13:37   ` Alan Maguire
2022-03-31 19:13     ` Andrii Nakryiko
2022-03-25  5:29 ` [PATCH bpf-next 4/7] libbpf: wire up spec management and other arch-independent USDT logic Andrii Nakryiko
2022-03-31 14:49   ` Alan Maguire
2022-03-31 19:16     ` Andrii Nakryiko
2022-03-25  5:29 ` [PATCH bpf-next 5/7] libbpf: add x86-specific USDT arg spec parsing logic Andrii Nakryiko
2022-03-31 15:13   ` Alan Maguire
2022-03-31 19:20     ` Andrii Nakryiko
2022-03-25  5:29 ` [PATCH bpf-next 6/7] selftests/bpf: add basic USDT selftests Andrii Nakryiko
2022-03-31 15:54   ` Alan Maguire
2022-03-31 19:28     ` Andrii Nakryiko
2022-03-25  5:29 ` [PATCH bpf-next 7/7] selftests/bpf: add urandom_read shared lib and USDTs Andrii Nakryiko
2022-03-31 22:13   ` Alan Maguire
2022-04-01 16:59     ` Andrii Nakryiko

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