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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Alejandro Colomar <alx.manpages@gmail.com>
Cc: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>,
	Alex Colomar <alx@kernel.org>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	linux-man <linux-man@vger.kernel.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	Zack Weinberg <zackw@panix.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	glibc <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>, GCC <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>,
	bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>, LTP List <ltp@lists.linux.it>,
	Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	David Laight <David.Laight@aculab.com>,
	Joseph Myers <joseph@codesourcery.com>,
	Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>,
	Cyril Hrubis <chrubis@suse.cz>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>,
	Adhemerval Zanella <adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org>,
	Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] Many pages: Document fixed-width types with ISO C naming
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2022 17:52:21 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHk-=whfft=qpCiQ=mkaCz+X1MEfGK5hpUWYoM5zWK=2EQMwyw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c06008bc-0c13-12f1-df85-3814b74e47f9@gmail.com>

On Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 4:36 PM Alejandro Colomar
<alx.manpages@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I'm trying to be nice, and ask for review to make sure I'm not making
> some big mistake by accident, and I get disrespect?  No thanks.

You've been told multiple times that the kernel doesn't use the
"standard" names, and *cannot* use them for namespace reasons, and you
ignore all the feedback, and then you claim you are asking for review?

That's not "asking for review". That's "I think I know the answer, and
when people tell me otherwise I ignore them".

The fact is, kernel UAPI header files MUST NOT use the so-called standard names.

We cannot provide said names, because they are only provided by the
standard header files.

And since kernel header files cannot provide them, then kernel UAPI
header files cannot _use_ them.

End result: any kernel UAPI header file will continue to use __u32 etc
naming that doesn't have any namespace pollution issues.

Nothing else is even remotely acceptable.

Stop trying to make this something other than it is.

And if you cannot accept these simple technical reasons, why do you
expect respect?

Why are you so special that you think you can change the rules for
kernel uapi files over the *repeated* objections from maintainers who
know better?

                  Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2022-08-25  0:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20210423230609.13519-1-alx.manpages@gmail.com>
2021-04-23 23:20 ` [RFC] bpf.2: Use standard types and attributes Alexei Starovoitov
2021-04-24 17:56   ` Alejandro Colomar (man-pages)
2021-04-25 16:52     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2021-04-25 19:12       ` Zack Weinberg
2021-04-24 20:43   ` David Laight
2021-04-25 19:16     ` Zack Weinberg
2021-04-25 21:09       ` David Laight
2021-05-04 11:05 ` [RFC v2] " Alejandro Colomar
2021-05-04 14:12   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2021-05-04 14:24     ` Greg KH
2021-05-04 15:53       ` Alejandro Colomar (man-pages)
2021-05-04 16:06         ` Greg KH
2021-05-04 18:37           ` Zack Weinberg
2021-05-04 18:54             ` Alejandro Colomar (man-pages)
2021-05-04 19:45               ` Florian Weimer
2021-05-04 19:59                 ` Alejandro Colomar (man-pages)
2021-05-05  8:23                 ` David Laight
2021-05-05 22:22                   ` Joseph Myers
2021-05-04 20:06               ` Daniel Borkmann
2021-05-04 20:16                 ` Alejandro Colomar (man-pages)
2021-05-04 20:33                 ` Zack Weinberg
2021-05-04 21:23                   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2021-05-15 19:01               ` [PATCH v3] " Alejandro Colomar
2021-05-16  9:16                 ` Alejandro Colomar (man-pages)
2021-05-17 18:56                   ` Daniel Borkmann
2021-05-21 11:12                     ` Alejandro Colomar
2021-05-04 16:08         ` [RFC v2] " Daniel Borkmann
2022-08-24 18:55 ` [PATCH v3] Many pages: Document fixed-width types with ISO C naming Alejandro Colomar
2022-08-24 22:40   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-08-24 23:36     ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-08-25  0:52       ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2022-08-25  7:20         ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-08-25  7:28           ` Xi Ruoyao
2022-08-25  7:48             ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-08-25  8:09               ` Xi Ruoyao
2022-08-25  7:42           ` Linus Torvalds
2022-08-25  7:59             ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-08-25  5:57       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-08-25  6:41         ` Florian Weimer
2022-08-25  7:27           ` Linus Torvalds
2022-08-25 14:38             ` Joseph Myers
2022-08-25 15:01               ` David Laight
2022-08-25 15:37                 ` Joseph Myers
2022-08-25 16:43               ` Linus Torvalds
2022-08-25  7:44         ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-08-25  8:04           ` Alejandro Colomar

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