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From: Magnus Karlsson <magnus.karlsson@gmail.com>
To: "Björn Töpel" <bjorn.topel@gmail.com>
Cc: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@redhat.com>,
	"Magnus Karlsson" <magnus.karlsson@intel.com>,
	"Björn Töpel" <bjorn.topel@intel.com>,
	"Alexei Starovoitov" <ast@kernel.org>,
	"Daniel Borkmann" <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	"Network Development" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Jonathan Lemon" <jonathan.lemon@gmail.com>,
	bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>,
	degeneloy@gmail.com, "John Fastabend" <john.fastabend@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next v3] libbpf: fix compatibility for kernels without need_wakeup
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2019 09:17:05 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJ8uoz0XTo=LcTxL_tBwzz0TAYw+=M6EDXHW7P5_LG3SN3+NBQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJ+HfNimRqftmKASOdceXFJmgbLvXnNBZATTnfA9LMF2amGzzA@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 9:03 AM Björn Töpel <bjorn.topel@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 31 Oct 2019 at 08:17, Magnus Karlsson <magnus.karlsson@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 2:36 PM Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@redhat.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Magnus Karlsson <magnus.karlsson@intel.com> writes:
> > >
> > > > When the need_wakeup flag was added to AF_XDP, the format of the
> > > > XDP_MMAP_OFFSETS getsockopt was extended. Code was added to the
> > > > kernel to take care of compatibility issues arrising from running
> > > > applications using any of the two formats. However, libbpf was
> > > > not extended to take care of the case when the application/libbpf
> > > > uses the new format but the kernel only supports the old
> > > > format. This patch adds support in libbpf for parsing the old
> > > > format, before the need_wakeup flag was added, and emulating a
> > > > set of static need_wakeup flags that will always work for the
> > > > application.
> > >
> > > Hi Magnus
> > >
> > > While you're looking at backwards compatibility issues with xsk: libbpf
> > > currently fails to compile on a system that has old kernel headers
> > > installed (this is with kernel-headers 5.3):
> > >
> > > $ echo "#include <bpf/xsk.h>" | gcc -x c -
> > > In file included from <stdin>:1:
> > > /usr/include/bpf/xsk.h: In function ‘xsk_ring_prod__needs_wakeup’:
> > > /usr/include/bpf/xsk.h:82:21: error: ‘XDP_RING_NEED_WAKEUP’ undeclared (first use in this function)
> > >    82 |  return *r->flags & XDP_RING_NEED_WAKEUP;
> > >       |                     ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > /usr/include/bpf/xsk.h:82:21: note: each undeclared identifier is reported only once for each function it appears in
> > > /usr/include/bpf/xsk.h: In function ‘xsk_umem__extract_addr’:
> > > /usr/include/bpf/xsk.h:173:16: error: ‘XSK_UNALIGNED_BUF_ADDR_MASK’ undeclared (first use in this function)
> > >   173 |  return addr & XSK_UNALIGNED_BUF_ADDR_MASK;
> > >       |                ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > /usr/include/bpf/xsk.h: In function ‘xsk_umem__extract_offset’:
> > > /usr/include/bpf/xsk.h:178:17: error: ‘XSK_UNALIGNED_BUF_OFFSET_SHIFT’ undeclared (first use in this function)
> > >   178 |  return addr >> XSK_UNALIGNED_BUF_OFFSET_SHIFT;
> > >       |                 ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > How would you prefer to handle this? A patch like the one below will fix
> > > the compile errors, but I'm not sure it makes sense semantically?
> >
> > Thanks Toke for finding this. Of course it should be possible to
> > compile this on an older kernel, but without getting any of the newer
> > functionality that is not present in that older kernel.
>
> Is the plan to support source compatibility for the headers only, or
> the whole the libbpf itself? Is the usecase here, that you've built
> libbpf.so with system headers X, and then would like to use the
> library on a system with older system headers X~10? XDP sockets? BTF?

Good question. I let someone with more insight answer this. Providing
the support Toke wants does make the header files less pleasant to
look at for sure. But in any case, I think we should provide an error
when you try to enable a new kernel feature using an old libbpf that
has no support for it. Just in case someone mixes things up.

  reply	other threads:[~2019-10-31  8:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-25  9:17 [PATCH bpf-next v3] libbpf: fix compatibility for kernels without need_wakeup Magnus Karlsson
2019-10-25 19:30 ` Jonathan Lemon
2019-10-29  3:27 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-10-30 13:33 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-10-31  7:17   ` Magnus Karlsson
2019-10-31  8:02     ` Björn Töpel
2019-10-31  8:17       ` Magnus Karlsson [this message]
2019-10-31  9:50         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-10-31 14:00       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-10-31 14:13         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-10-31 14:17           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-10-31 14:26             ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-10-31 14:44               ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-10-31 14:52                 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-10-31 15:17                   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-10-31 17:42                     ` Jiri Olsa
2019-10-31 18:19                       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-10-31 19:18                         ` Jiri Olsa
2019-10-31 20:39                           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-11-01  7:27                             ` Jiri Olsa
2019-11-01 15:51                               ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-11-01 19:36                                 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-11-01 20:41                                   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-11-01 21:41                                     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-11-01 22:08                                       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-11-01  9:16                             ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-11-01 14:51                               ` John Fastabend
2019-10-31 20:23                     ` Andrii Nakryiko

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