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From: Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@google.com>
To: Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>
Cc: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Josef Bacik <josef@toxicpanda.com>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>, Zefan Li <lizefan.x@bytedance.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Vasily Averin <vasily.averin@linux.dev>,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	bpf@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/7] cgroup: rstat: only disable interrupts for the percpu lock
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2023 06:35:44 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJD7tkY6Wf2OWja+f-JeFM5DdMCyLzbXxZ8KF0MjcYOKri-vtA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALvZod5GT=bZsLXsG500pNkEJpMB1o2KJau4=r0eHB-c8US53A@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 11:33 PM Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 10:15 PM Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@google.com> wrote:
> >
> [...]
> > > Couple of questions:
> > >
> > > 1. What exactly is cgroup_rstat_lock protecting? Can we just remove it
> > > altogether?
> >
> > I believe it protects the global state variables that we flush into.
> > For example, for memcg, it protects mem_cgroup->vmstats.
> >
> > I tried removing the lock and allowing concurrent flushing on
> > different cpus, by changing mem_cgroup->vmstats to use atomics
> > instead, but that turned out to be a little expensive. Also,
> > cgroup_rstat_lock is already contended by different flushers
> > (mitigated by stats_flush_lock on the memcg side). If we remove it,
> > concurrent flushers contend on every single percpu lock instead, which
> > also seems to be expensive.
>
> We should add a comment on what it is protecting. I think block rstat
> are fine but memcg and bpf would need this.

I think it also protects the cpu base stats flushed by cgroup_base_stat_flush().

I will add a comment in the next version.

>
> >
> > > 2. Are we really calling rstat flush in irq context?
> >
> > I think it is possible through the charge/uncharge path:
> > memcg_check_events()->mem_cgroup_threshold()->mem_cgroup_usage(). I
> > added the protection against flushing in an interrupt context for
> > future callers as well, as it may cause a deadlock if we don't disable
> > interrupts when acquiring cgroup_rstat_lock.
> >
> > > 3. The mem_cgroup_flush_stats() call in mem_cgroup_usage() is only
> > > done for root memcg. Why is mem_cgroup_threshold() interested in root
> > > memcg usage? Why not ignore root memcg in mem_cgroup_threshold() ?
> >
> > I am not sure, but the code looks like event notifications may be set
> > up on root memcg, which is why we need to check thresholds.
>
> This is something we should deprecate as root memcg's usage is ill defined.

Right, but I think this would be orthogonal to this patch series.

>
> >
> > Even if mem_cgroup_threshold() does not flush memcg stats, the purpose
> > of this patch is to make sure the rstat flushing code itself is not
> > disabling interrupts; which it currently does for any unsleepable
> > context, even if it is interruptible.
>
> Basically I am saying we should aim for VM_BUG_ON(!in_task()) in the
> flush function rather than adding should_skip_flush() which does not
> stop potential new irq flushers.

I wanted to start with VM_BUG_ON(!in_task()) but I wasn't sure that
all contexts that call rstat flushing are not in irq contexts. I added
should_skip_flush() so that if there are existing flushers in irq
context, or new flushers are added, we are protected against a
deadlock.

We can change should_skip_flush() to have a WARN_ON_ONCE(!in_task())
to alert in this case. If you prefer removing should_skip_flush() and
just adding VM_BUG_ON(!in_task()) we can do that, but personally I was
not confident enough that we have no code paths today that may attempt
flushing from irq context.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-03-23 13:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-23  4:00 [RFC PATCH 0/7] Make rstat flushing IRQ and sleep friendly Yosry Ahmed
2023-03-23  4:00 ` [RFC PATCH 1/7] cgroup: rstat: only disable interrupts for the percpu lock Yosry Ahmed
2023-03-23  4:29   ` Shakeel Butt
2023-03-23  5:15     ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-03-23  6:33       ` Shakeel Butt
2023-03-23 13:35         ` Yosry Ahmed [this message]
2023-03-23 15:40           ` Shakeel Butt
2023-03-23 15:42             ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-03-23 15:46               ` Shakeel Butt
2023-03-23 16:09                 ` Shakeel Butt
2023-03-23 16:17                   ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-03-23 16:29                     ` Shakeel Butt
2023-03-23 16:36                       ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-03-23 16:45                         ` Shakeel Butt
2023-03-23 16:51                           ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-03-23 19:09                             ` Shakeel Butt
2023-03-23 17:33                     ` Johannes Weiner
2023-03-23 18:09                       ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-03-23 18:19                         ` Johannes Weiner
2023-03-24  1:39   ` Tejun Heo
2023-03-24  7:22     ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-03-24 14:12       ` Waiman Long
2023-03-24 22:50         ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-03-25  1:54       ` Tejun Heo
2023-03-25  2:17         ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-03-25  4:30           ` Shakeel Butt
2023-03-25  4:37             ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-03-25  4:46               ` Shakeel Butt
2023-03-27 23:23                 ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-03-29 18:53                   ` Tejun Heo
2023-03-29 19:22                     ` Hugh Dickins
2023-03-29 20:00                       ` Tejun Heo
2023-03-29 20:38                         ` Hugh Dickins
2023-03-30  4:26                           ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-03-31  1:51                           ` Tejun Heo
2023-03-23  4:00 ` [RFC PATCH 2/7] memcg: do not disable interrupts when holding stats_flush_lock Yosry Ahmed
2023-03-23  4:32   ` Shakeel Butt
2023-03-23  5:16     ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-03-23  4:00 ` [RFC PATCH 3/7] cgroup: rstat: remove cgroup_rstat_flush_irqsafe() Yosry Ahmed
2023-03-23 15:43   ` Johannes Weiner
2023-03-23 15:45     ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-03-23  4:00 ` [RFC PATCH 4/7] memcg: sleep during flushing stats in safe contexts Yosry Ahmed
2023-03-23 15:56   ` Johannes Weiner
2023-03-23 16:01     ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-03-23 17:27       ` Johannes Weiner
2023-03-23 18:07         ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-03-23 19:35           ` Shakeel Butt
2023-03-23  4:00 ` [RFC PATCH 5/7] vmscan: memcg: sleep when flushing stats during reclaim Yosry Ahmed
2023-03-23  4:00 ` [RFC PATCH 6/7] workingset: memcg: sleep when flushing stats in workingset_refault() Yosry Ahmed
2023-03-23 15:50   ` Johannes Weiner
2023-03-23 16:02     ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-03-23 16:00   ` Johannes Weiner
2023-03-23 16:02     ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-03-23  4:00 ` [RFC PATCH 7/7] memcg: do not modify rstat tree for zero updates Yosry Ahmed
2023-03-23  4:10 ` [RFC PATCH 0/7] Make rstat flushing IRQ and sleep friendly Shakeel Butt
2023-03-23  5:07   ` Yosry Ahmed

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