From: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
LSM List <linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>,
James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>, Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
Network Development <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>, kernel-team <kernel-team@fb.com>,
Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next] bpf, capabilities: introduce CAP_BPF
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2019 16:34:47 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALCETrUOHRMkBRJi_s30CjZdOLDGtdMOEgqfgPf+q0x+Fw7LtQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190827192144.3b38b25a@gandalf.local.home>
On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 4:21 PM Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 27 Aug 2019 16:01:08 -0700
> Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> > [adding some security and tracing folks to cc]
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 1:52 PM Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > Introduce CAP_BPF that allows loading all types of BPF programs,
> > > create most map types, load BTF, iterate programs and maps.
> > > CAP_BPF alone is not enough to attach or run programs.
> > >
> > > Networking:
> > >
> > > CAP_BPF and CAP_NET_ADMIN are necessary to:
> > > - attach to cgroup-bpf hooks like INET_INGRESS, INET_SOCK_CREATE, INET4_CONNECT
> > > - run networking bpf programs (like xdp, skb, flow_dissector)
> > >
> > > Tracing:
> > >
> > > CAP_BPF and perf_paranoid_tracepoint_raw() (which is kernel.perf_event_paranoid == -1)
> > > are necessary to:
> > > - attach bpf program to raw tracepoint
> > > - use bpf_trace_printk() in all program types (not only tracing programs)
> > > - create bpf stackmap
> > >
> > > To attach bpf to perf_events perf_event_open() needs to succeed as usual.
> > >
> > > CAP_BPF controls BPF side.
> > > CAP_NET_ADMIN controls intersection where BPF calls into networking.
> > > perf_paranoid_tracepoint_raw controls intersection where BPF calls into tracing.
> > >
> > > In the future CAP_TRACING could be introduced to control
> > > creation of kprobe/uprobe and attaching bpf to perf_events.
> > > In such case bpf_probe_read() thin wrapper would be controlled by CAP_BPF.
> > > Whereas probe_read() would be controlled by CAP_TRACING.
> > > CAP_TRACING would also control generic kprobe+probe_read.
> > > CAP_BPF and CAP_TRACING would be necessary for tracing bpf programs
> > > that want to use bpf_probe_read.
>
> No mention of the tracefs (/sys/kernel/tracing) file?
See below. Also, I am embarrassed to admit that I just assumed that
/sys/kernel/debug/tracing was just like any other debugfs directory.
>
>
> >
> > Changing the capability that some existing operation requires could
> > break existing programs. The old capability may need to be accepted
> > as well.
> >
> > I'm inclined to suggest that CAP_TRACING be figured out or rejected
> > before something like this gets applied.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>
> > > ---
> > > I would prefer to introduce CAP_TRACING soon, since it
> > > will make tracing and networking permission model symmetrical.
> > >
> >
> > Here's my proposal for CAP_TRACING, documentation-style:
> >
> > --- begin ---
> >
> > CAP_TRACING enables a task to use various kernel features to trace
> > running user programs and the kernel itself. CAP_TRACING also enables
> > a task to bypass some speculation attack countermeasures. A task in
> > the init user namespace with CAP_TRACING will be able to tell exactly
> > what kernel code is executed and when, and will be able to read kernel
> > registers and kernel memory. It will, similarly, be able to read the
> > state of other user tasks.
> >
> > Specifically, CAP_TRACING allows the following operations. It may
> > allow more operations in the future:
> >
> > - Full use of perf_event_open(), similarly to the effect of
> > kernel.perf_event_paranoid == -1.
> >
> > - Loading and attaching tracing BPF programs, including use of BPF
> > raw tracepoints.
> >
> > - Use of BPF stack maps.
> >
> > - Use of bpf_probe_read() and bpf_trace_printk().
> >
> > - Use of unsafe pointer-to-integer conversions in BPF.
> >
> > - Bypassing of BPF's speculation attack hardening measures and
> > constant blinding. (Note: other mechanisms might also allow this.)
> >
> > CAP_TRACING does not override normal permissions on sysfs or debugfs.
> > This means that, unless a new interface for programming kprobes and
> > such is added, it does not directly allow use of kprobes.
>
> kprobes can be created in the tracefs filesystem (which is separate from
> debugfs, tracefs just gets automatically mounted
> in /sys/kernel/debug/tracing when debugfs is mounted) from the
> kprobe_events file. /sys/kernel/tracing is just the tracefs
> directory without debugfs, and was created specifically to allow
> tracing to be access without opening up the can of worms in debugfs.
I think that, in principle, CAP_TRACING should allow this, but I'm not
sure how to achieve that. I suppose we could set up
inode_operations.permission on tracefs, but what exactly would it do?
Would it be just like generic_permission() except that it would look
at CAP_TRACING instead of CAP_DAC_OVERRIDE? That is, you can use
tracefs if you have CAP_TRACING *or* acl access? Or would it be:
int tracing_permission(struct inode *inode, int mask)
{
if (!capable(CAP_TRACING))
return -EPERM;
return generic_permission(inode, mask);
}
Which would mean that you need ACL *and* CAP_TRACING, so
administrators would change the mode to 777. That's a bit scary.
And this still doesn't let people even *find* tracefs, since it's
hidden in debugfs.
So maybe make CAP_TRACING override ACLs but also add /sys/fs/tracing
and mount tracefs there, too, so that regular users can at least find
the mountpoint.
>
> Should we allow CAP_TRACING access to /proc/kallsyms? as it is helpful
> to convert perf and trace-cmd's function pointers into names. Once you
> allow tracing of the kernel, hiding /proc/kallsyms is pretty useless.
I think we should.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-08-27 23:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-08-27 20:52 [PATCH bpf-next] bpf, capabilities: introduce CAP_BPF Alexei Starovoitov
2019-08-27 23:01 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-08-27 23:21 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-08-27 23:34 ` Andy Lutomirski [this message]
2019-08-28 0:44 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-08-28 1:12 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-08-28 2:22 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-08-28 0:38 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-08-28 3:30 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-08-28 4:47 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-08-28 0:34 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-08-28 0:55 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-08-28 2:00 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-08-28 4:49 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-08-28 6:20 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-08-28 23:38 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-08-29 0:58 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-08-28 4:43 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-08-28 6:12 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-08-28 22:55 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-08-29 0:45 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-08-29 0:53 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-08-29 4:07 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-09-28 23:37 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-09-30 18:31 ` Kees Cook
2019-10-01 1:22 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-10-01 22:10 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-01 22:18 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-10-01 22:47 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-02 17:18 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-10-02 23:00 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-03 16:18 ` trace_printk issue. Was: " Alexei Starovoitov
2019-10-03 16:41 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-04 19:56 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-10-03 6:12 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-10-03 16:20 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-08-28 7:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-28 22:08 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-08-29 13:34 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-08-29 15:43 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-08-29 17:23 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-08-29 17:36 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-08-29 17:49 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-08-29 17:19 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-08-29 17:47 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-08-28 10:38 ` kbuild test robot
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