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From: Yan Zhai <yan@cloudflare.com>
To: Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
	"Paolo Abeni" <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	"Jiri Pirko" <jiri@resnulli.us>,
	"Simon Horman" <horms@kernel.org>,
	"Daniel Borkmann" <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	"Lorenzo Bianconi" <lorenzo@kernel.org>,
	"Coco Li" <lixiaoyan@google.com>, "Wei Wang" <weiwan@google.com>,
	"Alexander Duyck" <alexanderduyck@fb.com>,
	"Hannes Frederic Sowa" <hannes@stressinduktion.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rcu@vger.kernel.org,
	bpf@vger.kernel.org, kernel-team@cloudflare.com,
	"Joel Fernandes" <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	"Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@redhat.com>,
	"Alexei Starovoitov" <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>,
	"Steven Rostedt" <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	mark.rutland@arm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] net: raise RCU qs after each threaded NAPI poll
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2024 11:30:29 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAO3-PboZwTiSmVxVFFfAm94o+LgK=rnm1vbJvMhzSGep+RYzaQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANn89iLCv0f3vBYt8W+_ZDuNeOY1jDLDBfMbOj7Hzi8s0xQCZA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Eric,

On Fri, Mar 1, 2024 at 2:30 AM Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com> wrote:
>
> I could not see the reason for 1sec (HZ) delays.
>
> Would calling rcu_softirq_qs() every ~10ms instead be a serious issue ?
>
The trouble scenarios are often when we need to detach an ad-hoc BPF
tracing program, or restart a monitoring service. It is fine as long
as they do not block for 10+ seconds or even completely stall under
heavy traffic. Raising a QS every few ms or HZ both work in such
cases.

> In anycase, if this all about rcu_tasks, I would prefer using a macro
> defined in kernel/rcu/tasks.h
> instead of having a hidden constant in a networking core function.

Paul E. McKenney was suggesting either current form or

         local_bh_enable();
         if (!IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_PREEMPT_RT))
                 rcu_softirq_qs_enable(local_bh_enable());
         else
                 local_bh_enable();

With an interval it might have to be
"rcu_softirq_qs_enable(local_bh_enable(), &next_qs);" to avoid an
unnecessary extern/static var. Will it make more sense to you?

thanks

>
> Thanks.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-01 17:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-01  3:47 [PATCH v2] net: raise RCU qs after each threaded NAPI poll Yan Zhai
2024-03-01  3:49 ` Yan Zhai
2024-03-01  8:30   ` Eric Dumazet
2024-03-01 17:30     ` Yan Zhai [this message]
2024-03-01 22:29       ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-03-11 22:58         ` Yan Zhai
2024-03-11 23:55           ` Paul E. McKenney

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