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From: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 09/23] mm/gup: introduce pin_user_pages*() and FOLL_PIN
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2019 10:45:49 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPcyv4gJbmf9aRU_5_umiE7GvTWG1D+zkCMNxrU=LYn-n0arNA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191113104308.GE6367@quack2.suse.cz>

On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 2:43 AM Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz> wrote:
>
> On Tue 12-11-19 20:26:56, John Hubbard wrote:
> > Introduce pin_user_pages*() variations of get_user_pages*() calls,
> > and also pin_longterm_pages*() variations.
> >
> > These variants all set FOLL_PIN, which is also introduced, and
> > thoroughly documented.
> >
> > The pin_longterm*() variants also set FOLL_LONGTERM, in addition
> > to FOLL_PIN:
> >
> >     pin_user_pages()
> >     pin_user_pages_remote()
> >     pin_user_pages_fast()
> >
> >     pin_longterm_pages()
> >     pin_longterm_pages_remote()
> >     pin_longterm_pages_fast()
> >
> > All pages that are pinned via the above calls, must be unpinned via
> > put_user_page().
> >
> > The underlying rules are:
> >
> > * These are gup-internal flags, so the call sites should not directly
> > set FOLL_PIN nor FOLL_LONGTERM. That behavior is enforced with
> > assertions, for the new FOLL_PIN flag. However, for the pre-existing
> > FOLL_LONGTERM flag, which has some call sites that still directly
> > set FOLL_LONGTERM, there is no assertion yet.
> >
> > * Call sites that want to indicate that they are going to do DirectIO
> >   ("DIO") or something with similar characteristics, should call a
> >   get_user_pages()-like wrapper call that sets FOLL_PIN. These wrappers
> >   will:
> >         * Start with "pin_user_pages" instead of "get_user_pages". That
> >           makes it easy to find and audit the call sites.
> >         * Set FOLL_PIN
> >
> > * For pages that are received via FOLL_PIN, those pages must be returned
> >   via put_user_page().
> >
> > Thanks to Jan Kara and Vlastimil Babka for explaining the 4 cases
> > in this documentation. (I've reworded it and expanded upon it.)
> >
> > Reviewed-by: Mike Rapoport <rppt@linux.ibm.com>  # Documentation
> > Reviewed-by: Jérôme Glisse <jglisse@redhat.com>
> > Cc: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
> > Cc: Ira Weiny <ira.weiny@intel.com>
> > Signed-off-by: John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>
>
> Thanks for the documentation. It looks great!
>
> > diff --git a/mm/gup.c b/mm/gup.c
> > index 83702b2e86c8..4409e84dff51 100644
> > --- a/mm/gup.c
> > +++ b/mm/gup.c
> > @@ -201,6 +201,10 @@ static struct page *follow_page_pte(struct vm_area_struct *vma,
> >       spinlock_t *ptl;
> >       pte_t *ptep, pte;
> >
> > +     /* FOLL_GET and FOLL_PIN are mutually exclusive. */
> > +     if (WARN_ON_ONCE((flags & (FOLL_PIN | FOLL_GET)) ==
> > +                      (FOLL_PIN | FOLL_GET)))
> > +             return ERR_PTR(-EINVAL);
> >  retry:
> >       if (unlikely(pmd_bad(*pmd)))
> >               return no_page_table(vma, flags);
>
> How does FOLL_PIN result in grabbing (at least normal, for now) page reference?
> I didn't find that anywhere in this patch but it is a prerequisite to
> converting any user to pin_user_pages() interface, right?
>
> > +/**
> > + * pin_user_pages_fast() - pin user pages in memory without taking locks
> > + *
> > + * Nearly the same as get_user_pages_fast(), except that FOLL_PIN is set. See
> > + * get_user_pages_fast() for documentation on the function arguments, because
> > + * the arguments here are identical.
> > + *
> > + * FOLL_PIN means that the pages must be released via put_user_page(). Please
> > + * see Documentation/vm/pin_user_pages.rst for further details.
> > + *
> > + * This is intended for Case 1 (DIO) in Documentation/vm/pin_user_pages.rst. It
> > + * is NOT intended for Case 2 (RDMA: long-term pins).
> > + */
> > +int pin_user_pages_fast(unsigned long start, int nr_pages,
> > +                     unsigned int gup_flags, struct page **pages)
> > +{
> > +     /* FOLL_GET and FOLL_PIN are mutually exclusive. */
> > +     if (WARN_ON_ONCE(gup_flags & FOLL_GET))
> > +             return -EINVAL;
> > +
> > +     gup_flags |= FOLL_PIN;
> > +     return internal_get_user_pages_fast(start, nr_pages, gup_flags, pages);
> > +}
> > +EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(pin_user_pages_fast);
>
> I was somewhat wondering about the number of functions you add here. So we
> have:
>
> pin_user_pages()
> pin_user_pages_fast()
> pin_user_pages_remote()
>
> and then longterm variants:
>
> pin_longterm_pages()
> pin_longterm_pages_fast()
> pin_longterm_pages_remote()
>
> and obviously we have gup like:
> get_user_pages()
> get_user_pages_fast()
> get_user_pages_remote()
> ... and some other gup variants ...
>
> I think we really should have pin_* vs get_* variants as they are very
> different in terms of guarantees and after conversion, any use of get_*
> variant in non-mm code should be closely scrutinized. OTOH pin_longterm_*
> don't look *that* useful to me and just using pin_* instead with
> FOLL_LONGTERM flag would look OK to me and somewhat reduce the number of
> functions which is already large enough? What do people think? I don't feel
> too strongly about this but wanted to bring this up.

I'd vote for FOLL_LONGTERM should obviate the need for
{get,pin}_user_pages_longterm(). It's a property that is passed by the
call site, not an internal flag.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-11-13 18:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-13  4:26 [PATCH v4 00/23] mm/gup: track dma-pinned pages: FOLL_PIN, FOLL_LONGTERM John Hubbard
2019-11-13  4:26 ` [PATCH v4 01/23] mm/gup: pass flags arg to __gup_device_* functions John Hubbard
2019-11-13 10:50   ` Jan Kara
2019-11-13  4:26 ` [PATCH v4 02/23] mm/gup: factor out duplicate code from four routines John Hubbard
2019-11-13 11:15   ` Jan Kara
2019-11-13 23:12     ` John Hubbard
2019-11-13  4:26 ` [PATCH v4 03/23] mm/gup: move try_get_compound_head() to top, fix minor issues John Hubbard
2019-11-13 10:50   ` Jan Kara
2019-11-13 18:38   ` Ira Weiny
2019-11-13  4:26 ` [PATCH v4 04/23] mm: devmap: refactor 1-based refcounting for ZONE_DEVICE pages John Hubbard
2019-11-13 10:49   ` Jan Kara
2019-11-13 19:09   ` Jerome Glisse
2019-11-13 19:23   ` Dan Williams
2019-11-13 22:00     ` Dan Williams
2019-11-13 22:46       ` John Hubbard
2019-11-13 22:55         ` Dan Williams
2019-11-13 22:56           ` John Hubbard
2019-11-13 23:03       ` Jerome Glisse
2019-11-13  4:26 ` [PATCH v4 05/23] goldish_pipe: rename local pin_user_pages() routine John Hubbard
2019-11-13  4:26 ` [PATCH v4 06/23] IB/umem: use get_user_pages_fast() to pin DMA pages John Hubbard
2019-11-13  4:26 ` [PATCH v4 07/23] media/v4l2-core: set pages dirty upon releasing DMA buffers John Hubbard
2019-11-13  4:26 ` [PATCH v4 08/23] vfio, mm: fix get_user_pages_remote() and FOLL_LONGTERM John Hubbard
2019-11-13 13:02   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-11-13 19:17     ` Ira Weiny
2019-11-13 20:19       ` John Hubbard
2019-11-13 18:47   ` Ira Weiny
2019-11-13  4:26 ` [PATCH v4 09/23] mm/gup: introduce pin_user_pages*() and FOLL_PIN John Hubbard
2019-11-13 10:43   ` Jan Kara
2019-11-13 18:31     ` Ira Weiny
2019-11-13 18:45     ` Dan Williams [this message]
2019-11-13 23:22     ` John Hubbard
2019-11-14  6:08       ` John Hubbard
2019-11-13 18:59   ` Ira Weiny
2019-11-13 20:24     ` John Hubbard
2019-11-13  4:26 ` [PATCH v4 10/23] goldish_pipe: convert to pin_user_pages() and put_user_page() John Hubbard
2019-11-13  4:26 ` [PATCH v4 11/23] IB/{core,hw,umem}: set FOLL_PIN, FOLL_LONGTERM via pin_longterm_pages*() John Hubbard
2019-11-13  4:26 ` [PATCH v4 12/23] mm/process_vm_access: set FOLL_PIN via pin_user_pages_remote() John Hubbard
2019-11-13  4:27 ` [PATCH v4 13/23] drm/via: set FOLL_PIN via pin_user_pages_fast() John Hubbard
2019-11-13  4:27 ` [PATCH v4 14/23] fs/io_uring: set FOLL_PIN via pin_user_pages() John Hubbard
2019-11-13  4:27 ` [PATCH v4 15/23] net/xdp: " John Hubbard
2019-11-13  4:27 ` [PATCH v4 16/23] mm/gup: track FOLL_PIN pages John Hubbard
2019-11-13  4:27 ` [PATCH v4 17/23] media/v4l2-core: pin_longterm_pages (FOLL_PIN) and put_user_page() conversion John Hubbard
2019-11-13  4:27 ` [PATCH v4 18/23] vfio, mm: " John Hubbard
2019-11-13  4:27 ` [PATCH v4 19/23] powerpc: book3s64: convert to pin_longterm_pages() and put_user_page() John Hubbard
2019-11-13  4:27 ` [PATCH v4 20/23] mm/gup_benchmark: use proper FOLL_WRITE flags instead of hard-coding "1" John Hubbard
2019-11-13 19:01   ` Ira Weiny
2019-11-13  4:27 ` [PATCH v4 21/23] mm/gup_benchmark: support pin_user_pages() and related calls John Hubbard
2019-11-13 19:03   ` Ira Weiny
2019-11-13  4:27 ` [PATCH v4 22/23] selftests/vm: run_vmtests: invoke gup_benchmark with basic FOLL_PIN coverage John Hubbard
2019-11-13 19:06   ` Ira Weiny
2019-11-13  4:27 ` [PATCH v4 23/23] mm/gup: remove support for gup(FOLL_LONGTERM) John Hubbard
2019-11-13 19:09   ` Ira Weiny
2019-11-13 23:27     ` John Hubbard
2019-11-13  4:32 ` [PATCH v4 00/23] mm/gup: track dma-pinned pages: FOLL_PIN, FOLL_LONGTERM John Hubbard

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