From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> Cc: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>, Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>, Nikolay Borisov <nborisov@suse.com>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>, bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>, Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com> Subject: Re: kprobes broken since 0d00449c7a28 ("x86: Replace ist_enter() with nmi_enter()") Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2021 19:30:34 +0100 Message-ID: <YBmaStZn9XEU0QE+@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw) In-Reply-To: <20210202115623.08e8164d@gandalf.local.home> On Tue, Feb 02, 2021 at 11:56:23AM -0500, Steven Rostedt wrote: > NMIs are special, and they always have been. They shouldn't be doing much > anyway. If they are, then that's a problem. There is a fair amount of NMI level code these days, and it seems to be ever increasing... > My question wasn't to have them do it, I was simply asking if they do. I > was assuming that they do not. per nmi_enter() we do: __preempt_count_add(NMI_OFFSET + HARDIRQ_OFFSET); \ > > But it doesn't help with: > > > > spin_lock_irq(&foo); // task context > > #DB > > spin_lock_irq(&foo); // interrupt context per your above > > The statement above said: > > "If #DB and #BP do not change the in_interrupt() context" > > Which would make the above be in the same context and the handler would > not be called for the #DB case. But then replace the above #DB with __fentry__ and explain how it is fundamentally different? And consider that direct call into god knows what code option you have. That doesn't go past any recursion checks IIRC. > I'm fine with #DB and #BP being a "in_nmi()", as they are probably even > more special than NMIs. That does mean that kprobes are then fundamentally running from in_nmi(), which is what started all this. Sure, the opt-probes and ftrace-probes don't actually have in_nmi() set today (because they don't trigger an exception), but given that that is all optional, any kprobe handler had better be in_nmi() clean.
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