From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E097BC433F5 for ; Wed, 5 Oct 2022 22:12:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S229479AbiJEWMa (ORCPT ); Wed, 5 Oct 2022 18:12:30 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:38828 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S229496AbiJEWM0 (ORCPT ); Wed, 5 Oct 2022 18:12:26 -0400 Received: from mail-ej1-x62c.google.com (mail-ej1-x62c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::62c]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5A9328307D; Wed, 5 Oct 2022 15:12:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ej1-x62c.google.com with SMTP id 13so698883ejn.3; Wed, 05 Oct 2022 15:12:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=in-reply-to:content-disposition:mime-version:references:message-id :subject:cc:to:date:from:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=aUv12Ps+d8c83bpBxAt8IvYSTG0FAKuKCZixocXljkw=; b=gwlCq7fIpFl3gZiufw2foklvXpOp4nitQSSITSxU5aHImh7tH8HGgldbw6tqX1103W 5pX7g5OdZ5PShaCPmwvNZUHP3sWXQsR0OQnUE2BgfBbLU73JIaXfa+5Mdltj8tT2ZcXv MD+xEjEag6noz/UTZJ6F/3lTeZkNpXTVoOTWAZcqswPT5Z8pQbwiiu1h2KbuXX3Ts0Bb PVYziK8Y510fouNp33darZA9gCdCQBmme64It1qvYW7oQ4g7oLrNP7rrcWbuQ9G6KFJ6 GL7dUglcEZUCxuxQ/2JlbY00O9cfsET59mp5hmXryFKSpbvaz/vjkqjW6NgLzrBmLdvW lQgg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=in-reply-to:content-disposition:mime-version:references:message-id :subject:cc:to:date:from:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=aUv12Ps+d8c83bpBxAt8IvYSTG0FAKuKCZixocXljkw=; b=auuG2D2vcbkGqyUKTwIDLCLrNavC/+KY2YdL+/y9fqDvWlkrIf+WAy9GAlwZV8oRJF P0aAOtmHdCkbRw4v2WDmuDWe6z/6znybAE3HabuqlHZbmAgiQcjqMTOOZmVDtZ/6HgwU AcRaQNtZOcfHyKhHuOe3KTC5As0voB7Ikqse4iGsgRmadxSEupxqXxNdNdemAuIjopbs GujulAQOvRoMAp00FnKTQjJzv0YtO/5aImams1KBCtg0iVsUP9FlMhYCjBJnO1atH174 UbTf3hICUbJasIrRuUcOMhkdBJ3erY2Xo0wLypzg8raVdXglPsSzFR+qA3t1Wy9NgC62 5UuQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ACrzQf03fja+wsrJD2gCpSbIBtlWN1Siq9wx+ChvevVvRvpzE/Ol3xcr eBWhUtLLTatpDIr5ztXmJxQ= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AMsMyM6X04bPH4h6VK1Hhb5gbJTdKDMUkgfQIciMWJ+Acmfr6DJarysk2w1c1RW/zJM73ocCbms0kA== X-Received: by 2002:a17:907:2d8e:b0:783:8d26:645 with SMTP id gt14-20020a1709072d8e00b007838d260645mr1320362ejc.535.1665007940711; Wed, 05 Oct 2022 15:12:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from krava ([83.240.63.251]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id hp20-20020a1709073e1400b0072b33e91f96sm3601477ejc.190.2022.10.05.15.12.19 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 05 Oct 2022 15:12:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Jiri Olsa X-Google-Original-From: Jiri Olsa Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2022 00:12:17 +0200 To: Steven Rostedt , Florent Revest Cc: Xu Kuohai , Mark Rutland , Catalin Marinas , Daniel Borkmann , Xu Kuohai , linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, bpf@vger.kernel.org, Will Deacon , Jean-Philippe Brucker , Ingo Molnar , Oleg Nesterov , Alexei Starovoitov , Andrii Nakryiko , Martin KaFai Lau , Song Liu , Yonghong Song , John Fastabend , KP Singh , Stanislav Fomichev , Hao Luo , Zi Shen Lim , Pasha Tatashin , Ard Biesheuvel , Marc Zyngier , Guo Ren , Masami Hiramatsu Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next v2 0/4] Add ftrace direct call for arm64 Message-ID: References: <970a25e4-9b79-9e0c-b338-ed1a934f2770@huawei.com> <2cb606b4-aa8b-e259-cdfd-1bfc61fd7c44@huawei.com> <7f34d333-3b2a-aea5-f411-d53be2c46eee@huawei.com> <20221005110707.55bd9354@gandalf.local.home> <20221005113019.18aeda76@gandalf.local.home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20221005113019.18aeda76@gandalf.local.home> Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: bpf@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Oct 05, 2022 at 11:30:19AM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote: > On Wed, 5 Oct 2022 17:10:33 +0200 > Florent Revest wrote: > > > On Wed, Oct 5, 2022 at 5:07 PM Steven Rostedt wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, 5 Oct 2022 22:54:15 +0800 > > > Xu Kuohai wrote: > > > > > > > 1.3 attach bpf prog with with direct call, bpftrace -e 'kfunc:vfs_write {}' > > > > > > > > # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/null count=1000000 > > > > 1000000+0 records in > > > > 1000000+0 records out > > > > 512000000 bytes (512 MB, 488 MiB) copied, 1.72973 s, 296 MB/s > > > > > > > > > > > > 1.4 attach bpf prog with with indirect call, bpftrace -e 'kfunc:vfs_write {}' > > > > > > > > # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/null count=1000000 > > > > 1000000+0 records in > > > > 1000000+0 records out > > > > 512000000 bytes (512 MB, 488 MiB) copied, 1.99179 s, 257 MB/s > > > > Thanks for the measurements Xu! > > > > > Can you show the implementation of the indirect call you used? > > > > Xu used my development branch here > > https://github.com/FlorentRevest/linux/commits/fprobe-min-args nice :) I guess you did not try to run it on x86, I had to add some small changes and disable HAVE_DYNAMIC_FTRACE_WITH_DIRECT_CALLS to compile it > > That looks like it could be optimized quite a bit too. > > Specifically this part: > > static bool bpf_fprobe_entry(struct fprobe *fp, unsigned long ip, struct ftrace_regs *regs, void *private) > { > struct bpf_fprobe_call_context *call_ctx = private; > struct bpf_fprobe_context *fprobe_ctx = fp->ops.private; > struct bpf_tramp_links *links = fprobe_ctx->links; > struct bpf_tramp_links *fentry = &links[BPF_TRAMP_FENTRY]; > struct bpf_tramp_links *fmod_ret = &links[BPF_TRAMP_MODIFY_RETURN]; > struct bpf_tramp_links *fexit = &links[BPF_TRAMP_FEXIT]; > int i, ret; > > memset(&call_ctx->ctx, 0, sizeof(call_ctx->ctx)); > call_ctx->ip = ip; > for (i = 0; i < fprobe_ctx->nr_args; i++) > call_ctx->args[i] = ftrace_regs_get_argument(regs, i); > > for (i = 0; i < fentry->nr_links; i++) > call_bpf_prog(fentry->links[i], &call_ctx->ctx, call_ctx->args); > > call_ctx->args[fprobe_ctx->nr_args] = 0; > for (i = 0; i < fmod_ret->nr_links; i++) { > ret = call_bpf_prog(fmod_ret->links[i], &call_ctx->ctx, > call_ctx->args); > > if (ret) { > ftrace_regs_set_return_value(regs, ret); > ftrace_override_function_with_return(regs); > > bpf_fprobe_exit(fp, ip, regs, private); > return false; > } > } > > return fexit->nr_links; > } > > There's a lot of low hanging fruit to speed up there. I wouldn't be too > fast to throw out this solution if it hasn't had the care that direct calls > have had to speed that up. > > For example, trampolines currently only allow to attach to functions with 6 > parameters or less (3 on x86_32). You could make 7 specific callbacks, with > zero to 6 parameters, and unroll the argument loop. > > Would also be interesting to run perf to see where the overhead is. There > may be other locations to work on to make it almost as fast as direct > callers without the other baggage. I can boot the change and run tests in qemu but for some reason it won't boot on hw, so I have just perf report from qemu so far there's fprobe/rethook machinery showing out as expected jirka --- # To display the perf.data header info, please use --header/--header-only options. # # # Total Lost Samples: 0 # # Samples: 23K of event 'cpu-clock:k' # Event count (approx.): 5841250000 # # Overhead Command Shared Object Symbol # ........ ....... .............................................. .................................................. # 18.65% bench [kernel.kallsyms] [k] syscall_enter_from_user_mode | ---syscall_enter_from_user_mode do_syscall_64 entry_SYSCALL_64_after_hwframe syscall 13.03% bench [kernel.kallsyms] [k] seqcount_lockdep_reader_access.constprop.0 | ---seqcount_lockdep_reader_access.constprop.0 ktime_get_coarse_real_ts64 syscall_trace_enter.constprop.0 do_syscall_64 entry_SYSCALL_64_after_hwframe syscall 9.49% bench [kernel.kallsyms] [k] rethook_try_get | ---rethook_try_get fprobe_handler ftrace_trampoline __x64_sys_getpgid do_syscall_64 entry_SYSCALL_64_after_hwframe syscall 8.71% bench [kernel.kallsyms] [k] rethook_recycle | ---rethook_recycle fprobe_handler ftrace_trampoline __x64_sys_getpgid do_syscall_64 entry_SYSCALL_64_after_hwframe syscall 4.31% bench [kernel.kallsyms] [k] rcu_is_watching | ---rcu_is_watching | |--1.49%--rethook_try_get | fprobe_handler | ftrace_trampoline | __x64_sys_getpgid | do_syscall_64 | entry_SYSCALL_64_after_hwframe | syscall | |--1.10%--do_getpgid | __x64_sys_getpgid | do_syscall_64 | entry_SYSCALL_64_after_hwframe | syscall | |--1.02%--__bpf_prog_exit | call_bpf_prog.isra.0 | bpf_fprobe_entry | fprobe_handler | ftrace_trampoline | __x64_sys_getpgid | do_syscall_64 | entry_SYSCALL_64_after_hwframe | syscall | --0.70%--__bpf_prog_enter call_bpf_prog.isra.0 bpf_fprobe_entry fprobe_handler ftrace_trampoline __x64_sys_getpgid do_syscall_64 entry_SYSCALL_64_after_hwframe syscall 2.94% bench [kernel.kallsyms] [k] lock_release | ---lock_release | |--1.51%--call_bpf_prog.isra.0 | bpf_fprobe_entry | fprobe_handler | ftrace_trampoline | __x64_sys_getpgid | do_syscall_64 | entry_SYSCALL_64_after_hwframe | syscall | --1.43%--do_getpgid __x64_sys_getpgid do_syscall_64 entry_SYSCALL_64_after_hwframe syscall 2.91% bench bpf_prog_21856463590f61f1_bench_trigger_fentry [k] bpf_prog_21856463590f61f1_bench_trigger_fentry | ---bpf_prog_21856463590f61f1_bench_trigger_fentry | --2.66%--call_bpf_prog.isra.0 bpf_fprobe_entry fprobe_handler ftrace_trampoline __x64_sys_getpgid do_syscall_64 entry_SYSCALL_64_after_hwframe syscall 2.69% bench [kernel.kallsyms] [k] bpf_fprobe_entry | ---bpf_fprobe_entry fprobe_handler ftrace_trampoline __x64_sys_getpgid do_syscall_64 entry_SYSCALL_64_after_hwframe syscall 2.60% bench [kernel.kallsyms] [k] lock_acquire | ---lock_acquire | |--1.34%--__bpf_prog_enter | call_bpf_prog.isra.0 | bpf_fprobe_entry | fprobe_handler | ftrace_trampoline | __x64_sys_getpgid | do_syscall_64 | entry_SYSCALL_64_after_hwframe | syscall | --1.24%--do_getpgid __x64_sys_getpgid do_syscall_64 entry_SYSCALL_64_after_hwframe syscall 2.42% bench [kernel.kallsyms] [k] syscall_exit_to_user_mode_prepare | ---syscall_exit_to_user_mode_prepare syscall_exit_to_user_mode do_syscall_64 entry_SYSCALL_64_after_hwframe syscall 2.37% bench [kernel.kallsyms] [k] __audit_syscall_entry | ---__audit_syscall_entry syscall_trace_enter.constprop.0 do_syscall_64 entry_SYSCALL_64_after_hwframe | --2.36%--syscall 2.35% bench [kernel.kallsyms] [k] syscall_trace_enter.constprop.0 | ---syscall_trace_enter.constprop.0 do_syscall_64 entry_SYSCALL_64_after_hwframe syscall 2.12% bench [kernel.kallsyms] [k] check_preemption_disabled | ---check_preemption_disabled | --1.55%--rcu_is_watching | --0.59%--do_getpgid __x64_sys_getpgid do_syscall_64 entry_SYSCALL_64_after_hwframe syscall 2.00% bench [kernel.kallsyms] [k] fprobe_handler | ---fprobe_handler ftrace_trampoline __x64_sys_getpgid do_syscall_64 entry_SYSCALL_64_after_hwframe syscall 1.94% bench [kernel.kallsyms] [k] local_irq_disable_exit_to_user | ---local_irq_disable_exit_to_user syscall_exit_to_user_mode do_syscall_64 entry_SYSCALL_64_after_hwframe syscall 1.84% bench [kernel.kallsyms] [k] rcu_read_lock_sched_held | ---rcu_read_lock_sched_held | |--0.93%--lock_acquire | --0.90%--lock_release 1.71% bench [kernel.kallsyms] [k] migrate_enable | ---migrate_enable __bpf_prog_exit call_bpf_prog.isra.0 bpf_fprobe_entry fprobe_handler ftrace_trampoline __x64_sys_getpgid do_syscall_64 entry_SYSCALL_64_after_hwframe syscall 1.66% bench [kernel.kallsyms] [k] call_bpf_prog.isra.0 | ---call_bpf_prog.isra.0 bpf_fprobe_entry fprobe_handler ftrace_trampoline __x64_sys_getpgid do_syscall_64 entry_SYSCALL_64_after_hwframe syscall 1.53% bench [kernel.kallsyms] [k] __rcu_read_unlock | ---__rcu_read_unlock | |--0.86%--__bpf_prog_exit | call_bpf_prog.isra.0 | bpf_fprobe_entry | fprobe_handler | ftrace_trampoline | __x64_sys_getpgid | do_syscall_64 | entry_SYSCALL_64_after_hwframe | syscall | --0.66%--do_getpgid __x64_sys_getpgid do_syscall_64 entry_SYSCALL_64_after_hwframe syscall 1.31% bench [kernel.kallsyms] [k] debug_smp_processor_id | ---debug_smp_processor_id | --0.77%--rcu_is_watching 1.22% bench [kernel.kallsyms] [k] migrate_disable | ---migrate_disable __bpf_prog_enter call_bpf_prog.isra.0 bpf_fprobe_entry fprobe_handler ftrace_trampoline __x64_sys_getpgid do_syscall_64 entry_SYSCALL_64_after_hwframe syscall 1.19% bench [kernel.kallsyms] [k] __bpf_prog_enter | ---__bpf_prog_enter call_bpf_prog.isra.0 bpf_fprobe_entry fprobe_handler ftrace_trampoline __x64_sys_getpgid do_syscall_64 entry_SYSCALL_64_after_hwframe syscall 0.84% bench [kernel.kallsyms] [k] __radix_tree_lookup | ---__radix_tree_lookup find_task_by_pid_ns do_getpgid __x64_sys_getpgid do_syscall_64 entry_SYSCALL_64_after_hwframe syscall 0.82% bench [kernel.kallsyms] [k] do_getpgid | ---do_getpgid __x64_sys_getpgid do_syscall_64 entry_SYSCALL_64_after_hwframe syscall 0.78% bench [kernel.kallsyms] [k] debug_lockdep_rcu_enabled | ---debug_lockdep_rcu_enabled | --0.63%--rcu_read_lock_sched_held 0.74% bench ftrace_trampoline [k] ftrace_trampoline | ---ftrace_trampoline __x64_sys_getpgid do_syscall_64 entry_SYSCALL_64_after_hwframe syscall 0.72% bench [kernel.kallsyms] [k] preempt_count_add | ---preempt_count_add 0.71% bench [kernel.kallsyms] [k] ktime_get_coarse_real_ts64 | ---ktime_get_coarse_real_ts64 syscall_trace_enter.constprop.0 do_syscall_64 entry_SYSCALL_64_after_hwframe syscall 0.69% bench [kernel.kallsyms] [k] do_syscall_64 | ---do_syscall_64 entry_SYSCALL_64_after_hwframe | --0.68%--syscall 0.60% bench [kernel.kallsyms] [k] preempt_count_sub | ---preempt_count_sub 0.59% bench [kernel.kallsyms] [k] __rcu_read_lock | ---__rcu_read_lock 0.59% bench [kernel.kallsyms] [k] __x64_sys_getpgid | ---__x64_sys_getpgid do_syscall_64 entry_SYSCALL_64_after_hwframe syscall 0.58% bench [kernel.kallsyms] [k] __audit_syscall_exit | ---__audit_syscall_exit syscall_exit_to_user_mode_prepare syscall_exit_to_user_mode do_syscall_64 entry_SYSCALL_64_after_hwframe syscall 0.53% bench [kernel.kallsyms] [k] audit_reset_context | ---audit_reset_context syscall_exit_to_user_mode_prepare syscall_exit_to_user_mode do_syscall_64 entry_SYSCALL_64_after_hwframe syscall 0.45% bench [kernel.kallsyms] [k] rcu_read_lock_held 0.36% bench [kernel.kallsyms] [k] find_task_by_vpid 0.32% bench [kernel.kallsyms] [k] __bpf_prog_exit 0.26% bench [kernel.kallsyms] [k] syscall_exit_to_user_mode 0.20% bench [kernel.kallsyms] [k] idr_find 0.18% bench [kernel.kallsyms] [k] find_task_by_pid_ns 0.17% bench [kernel.kallsyms] [k] update_prog_stats 0.16% bench [kernel.kallsyms] [k] _raw_spin_unlock_irqrestore 0.14% bench [kernel.kallsyms] [k] pid_task 0.04% bench [kernel.kallsyms] [k] memchr_inv 0.04% bench [kernel.kallsyms] [k] smp_call_function_many_cond 0.03% bench [kernel.kallsyms] [k] do_user_addr_fault 0.03% bench 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