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From: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <jbrouer@redhat.com>
To: Stanislav Fomichev <sdf@google.com>,
	Jesper Dangaard Brouer <jbrouer@redhat.com>
Cc: brouer@redhat.com, bpf@vger.kernel.org, ast@kernel.org,
	daniel@iogearbox.net, andrii@kernel.org, martin.lau@linux.dev,
	song@kernel.org, yhs@fb.com, john.fastabend@gmail.com,
	kpsingh@kernel.org, haoluo@google.com, jolsa@kernel.org,
	David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com>, Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	Willem de Bruijn <willemb@google.com>,
	Anatoly Burakov <anatoly.burakov@intel.com>,
	Alexander Lobakin <alexandr.lobakin@intel.com>,
	Magnus Karlsson <magnus.karlsson@gmail.com>,
	Maryam Tahhan <mtahhan@redhat.com>,
	xdp-hints@xdp-project.net, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next v3 03/12] bpf: XDP metadata RX kfuncs
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2022 12:09:28 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c6855fd7-6569-e5fc-0794-352f1bbc573d@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKH8qBuhYUZEbs0UaUDaBOnmqjcSuim4vQhUzsLcOzPRY_eLrw@mail.gmail.com>


On 09/12/2022 18.47, Stanislav Fomichev wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 9, 2022 at 3:11 AM Jesper Dangaard Brouer
> <jbrouer@redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 06/12/2022 03.45, Stanislav Fomichev wrote:
>>> There is an ndo handler per kfunc, the verifier replaces a call to the
>>> generic kfunc with a call to the per-device one.
>>>
>>> For XDP, we define a new kfunc set (xdp_metadata_kfunc_ids) which
>>> implements all possible metatada kfuncs. Not all devices have to
>>> implement them. If kfunc is not supported by the target device,
>>> the default implementation is called instead.
>>>
>>> Upon loading, if BPF_F_XDP_HAS_METADATA is passed via prog_flags,
>>> we treat prog_index as target device for kfunc resolution.
>>>
>>
>> [...cut...]
>>> diff --git a/include/linux/netdevice.h b/include/linux/netdevice.h
>>> index 5aa35c58c342..2eabb9157767 100644
>>> --- a/include/linux/netdevice.h
>>> +++ b/include/linux/netdevice.h
>>> @@ -74,6 +74,7 @@ struct udp_tunnel_nic_info;
>>>    struct udp_tunnel_nic;
>>>    struct bpf_prog;
>>>    struct xdp_buff;
>>> +struct xdp_md;
>>>
>>>    void synchronize_net(void);
>>>    void netdev_set_default_ethtool_ops(struct net_device *dev,
>>> @@ -1611,6 +1612,10 @@ struct net_device_ops {
>>>        ktime_t                 (*ndo_get_tstamp)(struct net_device *dev,
>>>                                                  const struct skb_shared_hwtstamps *hwtstamps,
>>>                                                  bool cycles);
>>> +     bool                    (*ndo_xdp_rx_timestamp_supported)(const struct xdp_md *ctx);
>>> +     u64                     (*ndo_xdp_rx_timestamp)(const struct xdp_md *ctx);
>>> +     bool                    (*ndo_xdp_rx_hash_supported)(const struct xdp_md *ctx);
>>> +     u32                     (*ndo_xdp_rx_hash)(const struct xdp_md *ctx);
>>>    };
>>>
>>
>> Would it make sense to add a 'flags' parameter to ndo_xdp_rx_timestamp
>> and ndo_xdp_rx_hash ?
>>
>> E.g. we could have a "STORE" flag that asks the kernel to store this
>> information for later. This will be helpful for both the SKB and
>> redirect use-cases.
>> For redirect e.g into a veth, then BPF-prog can use the same function
>> bpf_xdp_metadata_rx_hash() to receive the RX-hash, as it can obtain the
>> "stored" value (from the BPF-prog that did the redirect).
>>
>> (p.s. Hopefully a const 'flags' variable can be optimized when unrolling
>> to eliminate store instructions when flags==0)
> 
> Are we concerned that doing this without a flag and with another
> function call will be expensive?

Yes, but if we can unroll (to avoid the function calls) it would be more
flexible and explicit API with below instead.

> For xdp->skb path, I was hoping we would be to do something like:
> 
> timestamp = bpf_xdp_metadata_rx_hash(ctx);
> bpf_xdp_metadata_export_rx_hash_to_skb(ctx, timestamp);
> 
> This should also let the users adjust the metadata before storing it.
> Am I missing something here? Why would the flag be preferable?

I do like this ability to let the users adjust the metadata before
storing it.  This would be a more flexible API for the BPF-programmer.
I like your "export" suggestion.  The main concern for me was
performance overhead of the extra function call, which I guess can be
removed via unrolling later.
Unrolling these 'export' functions might be easier to accept from a
maintainer perspective, as it is not device driver specific, thus we can
place that in the core BPF code.

--Jesper


  reply	other threads:[~2022-12-11 11:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-12-06  2:45 [PATCH bpf-next v3 00/12] xdp: hints via kfuncs Stanislav Fomichev
2022-12-06  2:45 ` [PATCH bpf-next v3 01/12] bpf: Document XDP RX metadata Stanislav Fomichev
2022-12-08  4:25   ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-12-08 19:06     ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-12-06  2:45 ` [PATCH bpf-next v3 02/12] bpf: Rename bpf_{prog,map}_is_dev_bound to is_offloaded Stanislav Fomichev
2022-12-08  4:26   ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-12-06  2:45 ` [PATCH bpf-next v3 03/12] bpf: XDP metadata RX kfuncs Stanislav Fomichev
2022-12-07  4:29   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-12-07  4:52     ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-12-07  7:23       ` Martin KaFai Lau
2022-12-07 18:05         ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-12-08  2:47   ` Martin KaFai Lau
2022-12-08 19:07     ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-12-08 22:53       ` Martin KaFai Lau
2022-12-08 23:45         ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-12-08  5:00   ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-12-08 19:07     ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-12-09  1:30       ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-12-09  2:57         ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-12-08 22:39   ` [xdp-hints] " Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-12-08 23:46     ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-12-09  0:07       ` [xdp-hints] " Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-12-09  2:57         ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-12-10  0:42           ` Martin KaFai Lau
2022-12-10  1:12             ` Martin KaFai Lau
2022-12-09 11:10   ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2022-12-09 17:47     ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-12-11 11:09       ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer [this message]
2022-12-06  2:45 ` [PATCH bpf-next v3 04/12] veth: Introduce veth_xdp_buff wrapper for xdp_buff Stanislav Fomichev
2022-12-06  2:45 ` [PATCH bpf-next v3 05/12] veth: Support RX XDP metadata Stanislav Fomichev
2022-12-06  2:45 ` [PATCH bpf-next v3 06/12] selftests/bpf: Verify xdp_metadata xdp->af_xdp path Stanislav Fomichev
2022-12-06  2:45 ` [PATCH bpf-next v3 07/12] mlx4: Introduce mlx4_xdp_buff wrapper for xdp_buff Stanislav Fomichev
2022-12-08  6:11   ` Tariq Toukan
2022-12-08 19:07     ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-12-06  2:45 ` [PATCH bpf-next v3 08/12] mxl4: Support RX XDP metadata Stanislav Fomichev
2022-12-08  6:09   ` Tariq Toukan
2022-12-08 19:07     ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-12-08 20:23       ` Tariq Toukan
2022-12-06  2:45 ` [PATCH bpf-next v3 09/12] xsk: Add cb area to struct xdp_buff_xsk Stanislav Fomichev
2022-12-06  2:45 ` [PATCH bpf-next v3 10/12] mlx5: Introduce mlx5_xdp_buff wrapper for xdp_buff Stanislav Fomichev
2022-12-06  2:45 ` [PATCH bpf-next v3 11/12] mlx5: Support RX XDP metadata Stanislav Fomichev
2022-12-08 22:59   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-12-08 23:45     ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-12-09  0:02       ` [xdp-hints] " Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-12-09  0:07         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-12-09  0:29           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-12-09  0:32             ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-12-09  0:53               ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-12-09  2:57                 ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-12-09  5:24                   ` Saeed Mahameed
2022-12-09 12:59                     ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2022-12-09 14:37                       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-12-09 15:19                       ` Dave Taht
2022-12-09 14:42                   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-12-09 16:45                     ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-12-09 17:46                       ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-12-09 22:13                         ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-12-06  2:45 ` [PATCH bpf-next v3 12/12] selftests/bpf: Simple program to dump XDP RX metadata Stanislav Fomichev
2022-12-08 22:28 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH bpf-next v3 00/12] xdp: hints via kfuncs Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-12-08 23:47   ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-12-09  0:14     ` [xdp-hints] " Toke Høiland-Jørgensen

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