From: Dave Marchevsky <davemarchevsky@fb.com>
To: Alexei Starovoitov <ast@fb.com>, bpf@vger.kernel.org
Cc: Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
Kernel Team <kernel-team@fb.com>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH bpf-next 00/11] bpf: Introduce rbtree map
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2022 14:11:33 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <de31d4e3-12e8-7cc5-1df8-571b738edb4a@fb.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ce6163e4-bee8-3bee-d0f7-503648fb55cd@fb.com>
On 8/1/22 5:27 PM, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> On 7/22/22 11:34 AM, Dave Marchevsky wrote:
>> Introduce bpf_rbtree map data structure. As the name implies, rbtree map
>> allows bpf programs to use red-black trees similarly to kernel code.
>> Programs interact with rbtree maps in a much more open-coded way than
>> more classic map implementations. Some example code to demonstrate:
>>
>> node = bpf_rbtree_alloc_node(&rbtree, sizeof(struct node_data));
>> if (!node)
>> return 0;
>>
>> node->one = calls;
>> node->two = 6;
>> bpf_rbtree_lock(bpf_rbtree_get_lock(&rbtree));
>>
>> ret = (struct node_data *)bpf_rbtree_add(&rbtree, node, less);
>> if (!ret) {
>> bpf_rbtree_free_node(&rbtree, node);
>> goto unlock_ret;
>> }
>>
>> unlock_ret:
>> bpf_rbtree_unlock(bpf_rbtree_get_lock(&rbtree));
>> return 0;
>>
>>
>> This series is in a heavy RFC state, with some added verifier semantics
>> needing improvement before they can be considered safe. I am sending
>> early to gather feedback on approach:
>>
>> * Does the API seem reasonable and might it be useful for others?
>
> Overall it seems to be on the right track.
> The two main issue to resolve are locks and iterators.
> The rest needs work too, but it's getting close :)
> Will reply in individual patches.
I generally agree with the comments on individual patches. We talked about the
whole series over VC quite a bit, I will summarize the larger points below.
* It's worth experimenting with statically verifying correct locking instead
of current dynamic approach where helpers that really shouldn't fail - e.g.
adding / removing from tree - can fail if lock isn't held. If it's possible
to get it working we can get rid of CONDITIONAL_RELEASE concept since failing
add operation is the only thing that needs it.
* You're not sold on the need for OBJ_NON_OWNING_REF flag in verifier, and
feel that it makes the API more confusing to work with. Worth experimenting
with a 'valid use-after-free' (really use-after-release here) concept that
doesn't require new type flag, or just accepting "racy, but safe".
* Open-coded iteration will take a long time to do correctly and
should be dropped for now.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-08-10 18:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-07-22 18:34 [RFC PATCH bpf-next 00/11] bpf: Introduce rbtree map Dave Marchevsky
2022-07-22 18:34 ` [RFC PATCH bpf-next 01/11] bpf: Pull repeated reg access bounds check into helper fn Dave Marchevsky
2022-07-22 18:34 ` [RFC PATCH bpf-next 02/11] bpf: Add verifier support for custom callback return range Dave Marchevsky
2022-07-22 18:34 ` [RFC PATCH bpf-next 03/11] bpf: Add rb_node_off to bpf_map Dave Marchevsky
2022-08-01 22:19 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-07-22 18:34 ` [RFC PATCH bpf-next 04/11] bpf: Add rbtree map Dave Marchevsky
2022-08-01 21:49 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-07-22 18:34 ` [RFC PATCH bpf-next 05/11] bpf: Add bpf_spin_lock member to rbtree Dave Marchevsky
2022-08-01 22:17 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-08-02 13:59 ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2022-08-02 15:30 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-08-10 21:46 ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2022-08-10 22:06 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-08-10 23:16 ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2022-08-15 5:33 ` Yonghong Song
2022-08-15 5:37 ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2022-07-22 18:34 ` [RFC PATCH bpf-next 06/11] bpf: Add bpf_rbtree_{lock,unlock} helpers Dave Marchevsky
2022-08-01 21:58 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-07-22 18:34 ` [RFC PATCH bpf-next 07/11] bpf: Enforce spinlock hold for bpf_rbtree_{add,remove,find} Dave Marchevsky
2022-07-22 18:34 ` [RFC PATCH bpf-next 08/11] bpf: Add OBJ_NON_OWNING_REF type flag Dave Marchevsky
2022-08-01 22:41 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-07-22 18:34 ` [RFC PATCH bpf-next 09/11] bpf: Add CONDITIONAL_RELEASE " Dave Marchevsky
2022-08-01 22:23 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-07-22 18:34 ` [RFC PATCH bpf-next 10/11] bpf: Introduce PTR_ITER and PTR_ITER_END type flags Dave Marchevsky
2022-07-29 16:31 ` Tejun Heo
2022-08-01 22:44 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-08-02 13:05 ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2022-08-02 15:10 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-08-10 17:56 ` Dave Marchevsky
2022-07-22 18:34 ` [RFC PATCH bpf-next 11/11] selftests/bpf: Add rbtree map tests Dave Marchevsky
2022-07-28 7:18 ` Yonghong Song
2022-08-10 17:48 ` Dave Marchevsky
2022-07-28 7:04 ` [RFC PATCH bpf-next 00/11] bpf: Introduce rbtree map Yonghong Song
2022-08-10 17:54 ` Dave Marchevsky
2022-08-01 21:27 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-08-10 18:11 ` Dave Marchevsky [this message]
2022-08-02 22:02 ` Andrii Nakryiko
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