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From: Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>
To: Xiubo Li <xiubli@redhat.com>
Cc: idryomov@gmail.com, ukernel@gmail.com, pdonnell@redhat.com,
	ceph-devel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 0/2] ceph: size handling for the fscrypt
Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2021 10:12:33 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87d643da3e1c3bdd7fc24c697b01f42519c12dd5.camel@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e815c6da-9660-a149-f2ff-bcb480d1bb6f@redhat.com>

On Wed, 2021-09-08 at 19:16 +0800, Xiubo Li wrote:
> On 9/8/21 4:58 AM, Jeff Layton wrote:
> > On Tue, 2021-09-07 at 21:19 +0800, Xiubo Li wrote:
> > > On 9/7/21 8:35 PM, Jeff Layton wrote:
> > > > On Fri, 2021-09-03 at 16:15 +0800, xiubli@redhat.com wrote:
> > > > > From: Xiubo Li <xiubli@redhat.com>
> > > > > 
> > > > > This patch series is based Jeff's ceph-fscrypt-size-experimental
> > > > > branch in https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/jlayton/linux.git.
> > > > > 
> > > > > This is just a draft patch and need to rebase or recode after Jeff
> > > > > finished his huge patch set.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Post the patch out for advices and ideas. Thanks.
> > > > > 
> > > > I'll take a look. Going forward though, it'd probably be best for you to
> > > > just take over development of the entire ceph-fscrypt-size series
> > > > instead of trying to develop on top of my branch.
> > > > 
> > > > That branch is _very_ rough anyway. Just clone the branch into your tree
> > > > and then you can drop or change patches in it as you see fit.
> > > Sure.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > > ====
> > > > > 
> > > > > This approach will not do the rmw immediately after the file is
> > > > > truncated. If the truncate size is aligned to the BLOCK SIZE, so
> > > > > there no need to do the rmw and only in unaligned case will the
> > > > > rmw is needed.
> > > > > 
> > > > > And the 'fscrypt_file' field will be cleared after the rmw is done.
> > > > > If the 'fscrypt_file' is none zero that means after the kclient
> > > > > reading that block to local buffer or pagecache it needs to do the
> > > > > zeroing of that block in range of [fscrypt_file, round_up(fscrypt_file,
> > > > > BLOCK SIZE)).
> > > > > 
> > > > > Once any kclient has dirty that block and write it back to ceph, the
> > > > > 'fscrypt_file' field will be cleared and set to 0. More detail please
> > > > > see the commit comments in the second patch.
> > > > > 
> > > > That sounds odd. How do you know where the file ends once you zero out
> > > > fscrypt_file?
> > > > 
> > > > /me goes to look at the patches...
> > > The code in the ceph_fill_inode() is not handling well for multiple
> > > ftruncates case, need to be fixed.
> > > 
> > Ok. It'd probably be best to do that fix first in a separate patch and
> > do the fscrypt work on top.
> > 
> > FWIW, I'd really like to see the existing truncate code simplified (or
> > at least, better documented). I'm very leery of adding yet more fields
> > to the inode to handle truncate/size. So far, we have all of this:
> > 
> >          struct mutex i_truncate_mutex;
> >          u32 i_truncate_seq;        /* last truncate to smaller size */
> >          u64 i_truncate_size;       /*  and the size we last truncated down to */
> >          int i_truncate_pending;    /*  still need to call vmtruncate */
> > 
> >          u64 i_max_size;            /* max file size authorized by mds */
> >          u64 i_reported_size; /* (max_)size reported to or requested of mds */
> >          u64 i_wanted_max_size;     /* offset we'd like to write too */
> >          u64 i_requested_max_size;  /* max_size we've requested */
> > 
> > Your patchset adds yet another new field with its own logic. I think we
> > need to aim to simplify this code rather than just piling more logic on
> > top.
> 
> Yeah, makes sense.
> 
> 
> > 
> > > Maybe we need to change the 'fscrypt_file' field's logic and make it
> > > opaqueness for MDS, then the MDS will use it to do the truncate instead
> > > as I mentioned in the previous reply in your patch set.
> > > 
> > > Then we can do the defer rmw in any kclient when necessary as this patch
> > > does.
> > > 
> > I think you can't defer the rmw unless you have Fb caps. In that case,
> > you'd probably want to just truncate it in the pagecache, dirty the last
> > page in the inode, and issue the truncate to the MDS.
> 
> > In the case where you don't have Fb caps, then I think you don't want to
> > defer anything, as you can't guarantee another client won't get in there
> > to read the object. On a truncate, you'll want to issue the truncate to
> > the MDS and do the RMW on the last page. I'm not sure what order you'd
> > want to do that in though. Maybe you can issue them simultaneously?
> 
> I am not sure I correctly understand this. If my understanding is correct:
> 
> If one kclient will ftruncate a file, the fscrypt_file will be recorded 
> in the metadata. So after that this kclient could just release the Fwb 
> caps if it has. And later for any kclient it should first get the 
> fscrypt_file, so when:
> 
> A), reading, it should be granted the Fr caps, then we it always zero 
> that specified block, which the contents needs to be truncated, just 
> after the readed data dencrypted by using the fscrypt_file.
> 

Yes. Also, the end of the block beyond the offset in fscrypt_file should
already contain all zeroes after it has been decrypted.

> B), writing, if kclient wants to write data back to a file, it should 
> always do the read-modify-write, right ? It will read the data to the 
> local page buffers first by zeroing that specified block. Since it can 
> buffer the data it should already have been granted the Fb caps. If that 
> specified block will be updated, then it should update that whole block 
> contents, and that whole block has already been truncated and modified. 
> Then we can reset the fscrypt_file value in MDS, and at the same time we 
> need to hold the Fx too. That means if encryption is enabled, when 
> writing it should always get the Fx caps.
> 

Yes.

When we are operating with Fb caps, the client is already doing page-
aligned I/Os. Note that we already do a rmw in the case where we have Fb
caps. See ceph_write_begin().

The first thing it does before writing the new data to the pagecache is
update the parts of the page that are not being overwritten (if
necessary).  So it does a read to fill the unwritten parts of the page,
writes the data to the page, and eventually it gets flushed back out to
the OSD during writeback.

> If one kclient have held the Fb caps, will MDS allow any other kclient 
> to hold the Fr caps ?
> 

It should not, but I don't have the firmest grasp of the MDS locks.c
logic.

AIUI, if the MDS hands out Fb caps, then it needs to ensure that no
other clients are doing reads at the same time and it does that by
withholding Fr from other clients. Only once Fb caps have been returned
to the MDS should it hand out Fr to another client.

> 
> For the Fb cap did I miss something ?
> 
> 
> 
> > > > > There also need on small work in Jeff's MDS PR in cap flushing code
> > > > > to clear the 'fscrypt_file'.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Xiubo Li (2):
> > > > >     Revert "ceph: make client zero partial trailing block on truncate"
> > > > >     ceph: truncate the file contents when needed when file scrypted
> > > > > 
> > > > >    fs/ceph/addr.c  | 19 ++++++++++++++-
> > > > >    fs/ceph/caps.c  | 24 ++++++++++++++++++
> > > > >    fs/ceph/file.c  | 65 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++---
> > > > >    fs/ceph/inode.c | 48 +++++++++++++++++++-----------------
> > > > >    fs/ceph/super.h | 13 +++++++---
> > > > >    5 files changed, 138 insertions(+), 31 deletions(-)
> > > > > 
> 

-- 
Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>


  reply	other threads:[~2021-09-08 14:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-03  8:15 [PATCH RFC 0/2] ceph: size handling for the fscrypt xiubli
2021-09-03  8:15 ` [PATCH RFC 1/2] Revert "ceph: make client zero partial trailing block on truncate" xiubli
2021-09-03  8:15 ` [PATCH RFC 2/2] ceph: truncate the file contents when needed when file scrypted xiubli
2021-09-07 16:26   ` Jeff Layton
2021-09-08  9:37     ` Xiubo Li
2021-09-08 13:57       ` Jeff Layton
2021-09-09  3:38         ` Xiubo Li
2021-09-09 12:48           ` Jeff Layton
2021-09-10  2:30             ` Xiubo Li
2021-09-10 11:46               ` Jeff Layton
2021-09-13  5:42                 ` Xiubo Li
2021-09-13 14:05                   ` Jeff Layton
2021-09-14  5:43                     ` Xiubo Li
2021-09-13 19:34                   ` Jeff Layton
2021-09-14  5:40                     ` Xiubo Li
2021-09-14 14:24                       ` Jeff Layton
2021-09-16 10:02                         ` Xiubo Li
2021-09-17 17:19                           ` Jeff Layton
2021-09-20 14:32                             ` Xiubo Li
2021-09-20 19:24                               ` Jeff Layton
2021-09-22  2:23                                 ` Xiubo Li
2021-09-24 18:52                                   ` Jeff Layton
2021-09-25  1:02                                     ` Xiubo Li
2021-09-24 15:01                     ` Xiubo Li
2021-09-25  9:56                     ` Xiubo Li
2021-10-11 13:29                       ` Jeff Layton
2021-10-11 15:16                         ` Xiubo Li
2021-09-07 12:35 ` [PATCH RFC 0/2] ceph: size handling for the fscrypt Jeff Layton
2021-09-07 13:19   ` Xiubo Li
2021-09-07 20:58     ` Jeff Layton
2021-09-08 11:16       ` Xiubo Li
2021-09-08 14:12         ` Jeff Layton [this message]
2021-09-09  8:12           ` Xiubo Li
2021-09-08 11:17       ` Xiubo Li

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