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From: Tycho Andersen <tycho@tycho.pizza>
To: Christian Brauner <christian.brauner@ubuntu.com>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.ibm.com>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
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	Alban Crequy <alban@kinvolk.io>,
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	Stephen Smalley <stephen.smalley.work@gmail.com>,
	Todd Kjos <tkjos@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/34] fs: idmapped mounts
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2020 15:06:20 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201029210620.GB135035@cisco> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201029161920.zp7p3335x3q2a36e@wittgenstein>

On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 05:19:20PM +0100, Christian Brauner wrote:
> This approach (always) seemed conceptually wrong to me. Like Tycho said
> somewhere else this basically would act like a global variable which
> isn't great.

Elaborating on this a bit: the way Christian has organized this series
(by adding a parameter to the various inode operations) forces people
to make a choice about what user namespace to pass. They can of course
make the wrong choice, but that will show up in a diff somewhere, and
hopefully someone will notice.

If we pass things via current-> somewhere, people could potentially
avoid making this choice, and then we wind more of the kinds of bugs
Eric is worried about elsewhere in the thread.

While it does result in larger patches initally, requiring people to
reason about it explicitly is the right move, IMO.

Tycho
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  reply	other threads:[~2020-10-29 21:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-29  0:32 [PATCH 00/34] fs: idmapped mounts Christian Brauner
2020-10-29  0:32 ` [PATCH 01/34] namespace: take lock_mount_hash() directly when changing flags Christian Brauner
2020-11-01 14:41   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-11-02 13:33     ` Christian Brauner
2020-10-29  0:32 ` [PATCH 02/34] namespace: only take read lock in do_reconfigure_mnt() Christian Brauner
2020-10-29  0:32 ` [PATCH 03/34] fs: add mount_setattr() Christian Brauner
2020-11-01 14:42   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-11-02 13:34     ` Christian Brauner
2020-10-29  0:32 ` [PATCH 04/34] tests: add mount_setattr() selftests Christian Brauner
2020-10-29  0:32 ` [PATCH 05/34] fs: introduce MOUNT_ATTR_IDMAP Christian Brauner
2020-11-01 14:45   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-11-02 13:29     ` Christian Brauner
2020-10-29  0:32 ` [PATCH 06/34] fs: add id translation helpers Christian Brauner
2020-11-01 14:46   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-11-02 13:25     ` Christian Brauner
2020-10-29  0:32 ` [PATCH 07/34] capability: handle idmapped mounts Christian Brauner
2020-11-01 14:48   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-11-02 13:23     ` Christian Brauner
2020-10-29  0:32 ` [PATCH 08/34] namei: add idmapped mount aware permission helpers Christian Brauner
2020-10-29  0:32 ` [PATCH 09/34] inode: add idmapped mount aware init and " Christian Brauner
2020-10-29  0:32 ` [PATCH 10/34] attr: handle idmapped mounts Christian Brauner
2020-10-29  0:32 ` [PATCH 11/34] acl: " Christian Brauner
2020-10-29  0:32 ` [PATCH 12/34] xattr: " Christian Brauner
2020-10-29  0:32 ` [PATCH 13/34] selftests: add idmapped mounts xattr selftest Christian Brauner
2020-10-29  0:32 ` [PATCH 14/34] commoncap: handle idmapped mounts Christian Brauner
2020-10-29  0:32 ` [PATCH 15/34] stat: add mapped_generic_fillattr() Christian Brauner
2020-10-29  0:32 ` [PATCH 16/34] namei: handle idmapped mounts in may_*() helpers Christian Brauner
2020-10-29  0:32 ` [PATCH 17/34] namei: introduce struct renamedata Christian Brauner
2020-10-29  0:32 ` [PATCH 18/34] namei: prepare for idmapped mounts Christian Brauner
2020-10-29  0:32 ` [PATCH 19/34] namei: add lookup helpers with idmapped mounts aware permission checking Christian Brauner
2020-10-29  0:32 ` [PATCH 20/34] open: handle idmapped mounts in do_truncate() Christian Brauner
2020-10-29  0:32 ` [PATCH 21/34] open: handle idmapped mounts Christian Brauner
2020-10-29  0:32 ` [PATCH 22/34] af_unix: " Christian Brauner
2020-10-29  0:32 ` [PATCH 23/34] utimes: " Christian Brauner
2020-10-29  0:32 ` [PATCH 24/34] would_dump: " Christian Brauner
2020-10-29  0:32 ` [PATCH 25/34] exec: " Christian Brauner
2020-10-29  0:32 ` [PATCH 26/34] fs: add helpers for idmap mounts Christian Brauner
2020-10-29  0:32 ` [PATCH 27/34] apparmor: handle idmapped mounts Christian Brauner
2020-10-29  0:32 ` [PATCH 28/34] audit: " Christian Brauner
2020-10-29  0:32 ` [PATCH 29/34] ima: " Christian Brauner
2020-10-29  0:32 ` [PATCH 30/34] ext4: support " Christian Brauner
2020-10-29  0:32 ` [PATCH 31/34] expfs: handle " Christian Brauner
2020-10-29  0:32 ` [PATCH 32/34] overlayfs: handle idmapped lower directories Christian Brauner
2020-10-30 11:10   ` Amir Goldstein
2020-10-30 11:52     ` Christian Brauner
2020-10-29  0:32 ` [PATCH 33/34] overlayfs: handle idmapped merged mounts Christian Brauner
2020-10-30  9:57   ` Amir Goldstein
2020-10-29  0:32 ` [PATCH 34/34] fat: handle idmapped mounts Christian Brauner
2020-10-29  2:27 ` [PATCH 00/34] fs: " Dave Chinner
2020-10-29 16:19   ` Christian Brauner
2020-10-29 21:06     ` Tycho Andersen [this message]
2020-10-29  7:20 ` Sargun Dhillon
2020-10-29 15:47 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-10-29 15:51   ` Aleksa Sarai
2020-10-29 16:37     ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-10-30  2:18       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2020-10-30 15:07       ` Seth Forshee
2020-10-30 16:03         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2020-11-03 14:10       ` Alban Crequy
2020-10-29 16:05   ` Lennart Poettering
2020-10-29 16:36     ` Sargun Dhillon
2020-10-29 16:54     ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-10-29 16:12   ` Tycho Andersen
2020-10-29 16:23     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2020-10-29 16:44     ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-10-29 18:04       ` Stéphane Graber
2020-10-29 21:03       ` Tycho Andersen
2020-10-29 21:58 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-10-30 12:01   ` Christian Brauner
2020-10-30 16:17     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2020-10-31 17:43     ` Andy Lutomirski

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