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From: YiFei Zhu <zhuyifei1999@gmail.com>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Giuseppe Scrivano <gscrivan@redhat.com>,
	Valentin Rothberg <vrothber@redhat.com>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>, Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
	YiFei Zhu <yifeifz2@illinois.edu>,
	Linux Containers <containers@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	Tobin Feldman-Fitzthum <tobin@ibm.com>,
	kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Hubertus Franke <frankeh@us.ibm.com>,
	Jack Chen <jianyan2@illinois.edu>,
	Dimitrios Skarlatos <dskarlat@cs.cmu.edu>,
	Josep Torrellas <torrella@illinois.edu>,
	Will Drewry <wad@chromium.org>, bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>,
	Tianyin Xu <tyxu@illinois.edu>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 seccomp 3/6] seccomp/cache: Add "emulator" to check if filter is arg-dependent
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2020 20:23:30 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CABqSeASR0bQ7Y302SkZ639NM=roSVRmd3ROGm0YDEFCTxxd63w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrU_UpcLhXSG84SA6QkAYe8xXn4AXPKeud-=Adp57u54Mg@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 4:07 PM Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> wrote:
> We'd need at least three states per syscall: unknown, always-allow,
> and need-to-run-filter.
>
> The downsides are less determinism and a bit of an uglier
> implementation.  The upside is that we don't need to loop over all
> syscalls at load -- instead the time that each operation takes is
> independent of the total number of syscalls on the system.  And we can
> entirely avoid, say, evaluating the x32 case until the task tries an
> x32 syscall.

I was really afraid of multiple tasks writing to the bitmaps at once,
hence I used bitmap-per-task. Now I think about it, if this stays
lockless, the worst thing that can happen is that a write undo a bit
set by another task. In this case, if the "known" bit is cleared then
the worst would be the emulation is run many times. But if the "always
allow" is cleared but not "known" bit then we have an issue: the
syscall will always be executed in BPF.

Is it worth holding a spinlock here?

Though I'll try to get the benchmark numbers for the emulator later tonight.

YiFei Zhu
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-09-26  1:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 151+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-21  5:35 [RFC PATCH seccomp 0/2] seccomp: Add bitmap cache of arg-independent filter results that allow syscalls YiFei Zhu
2020-09-21  5:35 ` [RFC PATCH seccomp 1/2] seccomp/cache: Add "emulator" to check if filter is arg-dependent YiFei Zhu
2020-09-21 17:47   ` Jann Horn via Containers
2020-09-21 18:38     ` Jann Horn via Containers
2020-09-21 23:44     ` YiFei Zhu
2020-09-22  0:25       ` Jann Horn via Containers
2020-09-22  0:47         ` YiFei Zhu
2020-09-21  5:35 ` [RFC PATCH seccomp 2/2] seccomp/cache: Cache filter results that allow syscalls YiFei Zhu
2020-09-21 18:08   ` Jann Horn via Containers
2020-09-21 22:50     ` YiFei Zhu
2020-09-21 22:57       ` Jann Horn via Containers
2020-09-21 23:08         ` YiFei Zhu
2020-09-25  0:01   ` [PATCH v2 seccomp 2/6] asm/syscall.h: Add syscall_arches[] array Kees Cook
2020-09-25  0:15     ` Jann Horn via Containers
2020-09-25  0:18       ` Al Viro
2020-09-25  0:24         ` Jann Horn via Containers
2020-09-25  1:27     ` YiFei Zhu
2020-09-25  3:09       ` Kees Cook
2020-09-25  3:28         ` YiFei Zhu
2020-09-25 16:39           ` YiFei Zhu
2020-09-21  5:48 ` [RFC PATCH seccomp 0/2] seccomp: Add bitmap cache of arg-independent filter results that allow syscalls Sargun Dhillon
2020-09-21  7:13   ` YiFei Zhu
2020-09-21  8:30 ` Christian Brauner
2020-09-21  8:44   ` YiFei Zhu
2020-09-21 13:51 ` Tycho Andersen
2020-09-21 15:27   ` YiFei Zhu
2020-09-21 16:39     ` Tycho Andersen
2020-09-21 22:57       ` YiFei Zhu
2020-09-21 19:16 ` Jann Horn via Containers
2020-09-21 19:35   ` Hubertus Franke
2020-09-21 19:45     ` Jann Horn via Containers
2020-09-23 19:26 ` Kees Cook
2020-09-23 22:54   ` YiFei Zhu
2020-09-24  6:52     ` Kees Cook
2020-09-24 12:06 ` [PATCH seccomp 0/6] " YiFei Zhu
2020-09-24 12:06   ` [PATCH seccomp 1/6] seccomp: Move config option SECCOMP to arch/Kconfig YiFei Zhu
2020-09-24 12:06     ` YiFei Zhu
2020-09-24 12:06   ` [PATCH seccomp 2/6] asm/syscall.h: Add syscall_arches[] array YiFei Zhu
2020-09-24 12:06   ` [PATCH seccomp 3/6] seccomp/cache: Add "emulator" to check if filter is arg-dependent YiFei Zhu
2020-09-24 12:06   ` [PATCH seccomp 4/6] seccomp/cache: Lookup syscall allowlist for fast path YiFei Zhu
2020-09-24 12:06   ` [PATCH seccomp 5/6] selftests/seccomp: Compare bitmap vs filter overhead YiFei Zhu
2020-09-24 12:06   ` [PATCH seccomp 6/6] seccomp/cache: Report cache data through /proc/pid/seccomp_cache YiFei Zhu
2020-09-24 12:44   ` [PATCH v2 seccomp 0/6] seccomp: Add bitmap cache of arg-independent filter results that allow syscalls YiFei Zhu
2020-09-24 12:44     ` [PATCH v2 seccomp 1/6] seccomp: Move config option SECCOMP to arch/Kconfig YiFei Zhu
2020-09-24 19:11       ` Kees Cook
2020-10-27  9:52       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2020-10-27 19:08         ` YiFei Zhu
2020-10-28  0:06         ` Kees Cook
2020-10-28  8:18           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2020-10-28  9:34             ` Jann Horn via Containers
2020-09-24 12:44     ` [PATCH v2 seccomp 2/6] asm/syscall.h: Add syscall_arches[] array YiFei Zhu
2020-09-24 13:47       ` David Laight
2020-09-24 14:16         ` YiFei Zhu
2020-09-24 14:20           ` David Laight
2020-09-24 14:37             ` YiFei Zhu
2020-09-24 16:02               ` YiFei Zhu
2020-09-24 12:44     ` [PATCH v2 seccomp 3/6] seccomp/cache: Add "emulator" to check if filter is arg-dependent YiFei Zhu
2020-09-24 23:25       ` Kees Cook
2020-09-25  3:04         ` YiFei Zhu
2020-09-25 16:45           ` YiFei Zhu
2020-09-25 19:42             ` Kees Cook
2020-09-25 19:51               ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-25 20:37                 ` Kees Cook
2020-09-25 21:07                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-25 23:49                     ` Kees Cook
2020-09-26  0:34                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-26  1:23                     ` YiFei Zhu [this message]
2020-09-26  2:47                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-26  4:35                         ` Kees Cook
2020-09-24 12:44     ` [PATCH v2 seccomp 4/6] seccomp/cache: Lookup syscall allowlist for fast path YiFei Zhu
2020-09-24 23:46       ` Kees Cook
2020-09-25  1:55         ` YiFei Zhu
2020-09-24 12:44     ` [PATCH v2 seccomp 5/6] selftests/seccomp: Compare bitmap vs filter overhead YiFei Zhu
2020-09-24 23:47       ` Kees Cook
2020-09-25  1:35         ` YiFei Zhu
2020-09-24 12:44     ` [PATCH v2 seccomp 6/6] seccomp/cache: Report cache data through /proc/pid/seccomp_cache YiFei Zhu
2020-09-24 23:56       ` Kees Cook
2020-09-25  3:11         ` YiFei Zhu
2020-09-25  3:26           ` Kees Cook
2020-09-30 15:19 ` [PATCH v3 seccomp 0/5] seccomp: Add bitmap cache of constant allow filter results YiFei Zhu
2020-09-30 15:19   ` [PATCH v3 seccomp 1/5] x86: Enable seccomp architecture tracking YiFei Zhu
2020-09-30 21:21     ` Kees Cook
2020-09-30 21:33       ` Jann Horn via Containers
2020-09-30 22:53         ` Kees Cook
2020-09-30 23:15           ` Jann Horn via Containers
2020-09-30 15:19   ` [PATCH v3 seccomp 2/5] seccomp/cache: Add "emulator" to check if filter is constant allow YiFei Zhu
2020-09-30 22:24     ` Jann Horn via Containers
2020-09-30 22:49       ` Kees Cook
2020-10-01 11:28       ` YiFei Zhu
2020-10-01 21:08         ` Jann Horn via Containers
2020-09-30 22:40     ` Kees Cook
2020-10-01 11:52       ` YiFei Zhu
2020-10-01 21:05         ` Kees Cook
2020-10-02 11:08           ` YiFei Zhu
2020-10-09  4:47     ` YiFei Zhu
2020-10-09  5:41       ` Kees Cook
2020-09-30 15:19   ` [PATCH v3 seccomp 3/5] seccomp/cache: Lookup syscall allowlist for fast path YiFei Zhu
2020-09-30 21:32     ` Kees Cook
2020-10-09  0:17       ` YiFei Zhu
2020-10-09  5:35         ` Kees Cook
2020-09-30 15:19   ` [PATCH v3 seccomp 4/5] selftests/seccomp: Compare bitmap vs filter overhead YiFei Zhu
2020-09-30 15:19   ` [PATCH v3 seccomp 5/5] seccomp/cache: Report cache data through /proc/pid/seccomp_cache YiFei Zhu
2020-09-30 22:00     ` Jann Horn via Containers
2020-09-30 23:12       ` Kees Cook
2020-10-01 12:06       ` YiFei Zhu
2020-10-01 16:05         ` Jann Horn via Containers
2020-10-01 16:18           ` YiFei Zhu
2020-09-30 22:59     ` Kees Cook
2020-09-30 23:08       ` Jann Horn via Containers
2020-09-30 23:21         ` Kees Cook
2020-10-09 17:14   ` [PATCH v4 seccomp 0/5] seccomp: Add bitmap cache of constant allow filter results YiFei Zhu
2020-10-09 17:14     ` [PATCH v4 seccomp 1/5] seccomp/cache: Lookup syscall allowlist bitmap for fast path YiFei Zhu
2020-10-09 21:30       ` Jann Horn via Containers
2020-10-09 23:18       ` Kees Cook
2020-10-09 17:14     ` [PATCH v4 seccomp 2/5] seccomp/cache: Add "emulator" to check if filter is constant allow YiFei Zhu
2020-10-09 21:30       ` Jann Horn via Containers
2020-10-09 22:47         ` Kees Cook
2020-10-09 17:14     ` [PATCH v4 seccomp 3/5] x86: Enable seccomp architecture tracking YiFei Zhu
2020-10-09 17:25       ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-10-09 18:32         ` YiFei Zhu
2020-10-09 20:59           ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-10-09 17:14     ` [PATCH v4 seccomp 4/5] selftests/seccomp: Compare bitmap vs filter overhead YiFei Zhu
2020-10-09 17:14     ` [PATCH v4 seccomp 5/5] seccomp/cache: Report cache data through /proc/pid/seccomp_cache YiFei Zhu
2020-10-09 21:24       ` kernel test robot
2020-10-09 21:45       ` Jann Horn via Containers
2020-10-09 23:14       ` Kees Cook
2020-10-10 13:26         ` YiFei Zhu
2020-10-12 22:57           ` Kees Cook
2020-10-13  0:31             ` YiFei Zhu
2020-10-22 20:52               ` YiFei Zhu
2020-10-22 22:32                 ` Kees Cook
2020-10-22 23:40                   ` YiFei Zhu
2020-10-24  2:51                     ` Kees Cook
2020-10-30 12:18                       ` YiFei Zhu
2020-11-03 13:00                         ` YiFei Zhu
2020-11-04  0:29                           ` Kees Cook
2020-11-04 11:40                             ` YiFei Zhu
2020-11-04 18:57                               ` Kees Cook
2020-10-11 15:47     ` [PATCH v5 seccomp 0/5]seccomp: Add bitmap cache of constant allow filter results YiFei Zhu
2020-10-11 15:47       ` [PATCH v5 seccomp 1/5] seccomp/cache: Lookup syscall allowlist bitmap for fast path YiFei Zhu
2020-10-12  6:42         ` Jann Horn via Containers
2020-10-11 15:47       ` [PATCH v5 seccomp 2/5] seccomp/cache: Add "emulator" to check if filter is constant allow YiFei Zhu
2020-10-12  6:46         ` Jann Horn via Containers
2020-10-11 15:47       ` [PATCH v5 seccomp 3/5] x86: Enable seccomp architecture tracking YiFei Zhu
2020-10-11 15:47       ` [PATCH v5 seccomp 4/5] selftests/seccomp: Compare bitmap vs filter overhead YiFei Zhu
2020-10-11 15:47       ` [PATCH v5 seccomp 5/5] seccomp/cache: Report cache data through /proc/pid/seccomp_cache YiFei Zhu
2020-10-12  6:49         ` Jann Horn via Containers
2020-12-17 12:14         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2020-12-17 18:34           ` YiFei Zhu
2020-12-18 12:35             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2020-10-27 19:14       ` [PATCH v5 seccomp 0/5]seccomp: Add bitmap cache of constant allow filter results Kees Cook

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