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From: Derrick Stolee <derrickstolee@github.com>
To: Elijah Newren <newren@gmail.com>,
	Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, jrnieder@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 03/30] extensions: add refFormat extension
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2022 09:37:03 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d14744cf-5ac3-e1c2-0239-4c33b701d5bf@github.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABPp-BGqkSmExRN=bV2014sM5n0msiSOXBG-q-REc8Of4CM4wg@mail.gmail.com>

On 11/11/22 6:39 PM, Elijah Newren wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 7, 2022 at 10:48 AM Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
> <gitgitgadget@gmail.com> wrote:
> [...]
>> One obvious improvement could be a new file format version for the
>> packed-refs file. Its current plaintext-based format is inefficient due
>> to storing object IDs as hexadecimal representations instead of in
>> their raw format. This extra cost will get worse with SHA-256.
> 
>> In addition, binary searches need to guess a position and scan to find
>> newlines for a refname entry. A structured binary format could allow for
>> more compact representation and faster access.
> 
> This doesn't parse very well at all.  The scanning is due to refname
> entries being of variable length, and changing hexadecimal
> representation of object IDs to binary values isn't going to help
> that.
> 
> I _think_, after re-scanning your RFC cover letter that you had other
> ideas to allow a binary search in order to read a single ref's value,
> and that the juxtaposing of these sentences together leads to an
> unfortunate assumption that one change is related to the both goals,
> but something extra here to clarify would help.

The v2 format has a structured list of offsets that can be used to
navigate directly to the ith ref in the file. Thus, we can use a
more precise form of binary search. Since we have these values, we
do not need to scan for newlines or spaces for the end of the ref
strings. This allows us to use the raw OIDs since we are not using
special characters as string boundaries.

I will work to clarify when I submit this for review.

>> diff --git a/Documentation/config/extensions.txt b/Documentation/config/extensions.txt
>> index bccaec7a963..ce8185adf53 100644
>> --- a/Documentation/config/extensions.txt
>> +++ b/Documentation/config/extensions.txt
>> @@ -7,6 +7,47 @@ Note that this setting should only be set by linkgit:git-init[1] or
>>  linkgit:git-clone[1].  Trying to change it after initialization will not
>>  work and will produce hard-to-diagnose issues.
>>
>> +extensions.refFormat::
>> +       Specify the reference storage mechanisms used by the repoitory as a
>> +       multi-valued list. The acceptable values are `files` and `packed`.
> 
>> +       If not specified, the list of `files` and `packed` is assumed.
> 
> This sentence doesn't parse for me.
> 
>> +       It
>> +       is an error to specify this key unless `core.repositoryFormatVersion`
>> +       is 1.
> 
> ...is at least 1?  Or are we trying to be incompatible with potential
> future core.repositoryFormatVersion values?

Specifying exactly 1 is consistent across our extensions documentation.
The intention of the extensions system is that we should never need a
value 2 here. If we do, then we should consider all extensions to be
redesigned from scratch. Perhaps we'd have different defaults, or older
options not possible anymore.

Thanks,
-Stolee

  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-16 14:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-07 18:35 [PATCH 00/30] [RFC] extensions.refFormat and packed-refs v2 file format Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-11-07 18:35 ` [PATCH 01/30] hashfile: allow skipping the hash function Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-11-07 18:35 ` [PATCH 02/30] read-cache: add index.computeHash config option Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-11-11 23:31   ` Elijah Newren
2022-11-14 16:30     ` Derrick Stolee
2022-11-17 16:13   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-07 18:35 ` [PATCH 03/30] extensions: add refFormat extension Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-11-11 23:39   ` Elijah Newren
2022-11-16 14:37     ` Derrick Stolee [this message]
2022-11-07 18:35 ` [PATCH 04/30] config: fix multi-level bulleted list Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-11-07 18:35 ` [PATCH 05/30] repository: wire ref extensions to ref backends Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-11-07 18:35 ` [PATCH 06/30] refs: allow loose files without packed-refs Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-11-07 18:35 ` [PATCH 07/30] chunk-format: number of chunks is optional Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-11-07 18:35 ` [PATCH 08/30] chunk-format: document trailing table of contents Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-11-07 18:35 ` [PATCH 09/30] chunk-format: store chunk offset during write Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-11-07 18:35 ` [PATCH 10/30] chunk-format: allow trailing table of contents Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-11-07 18:35 ` [PATCH 11/30] chunk-format: parse " Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-11-07 18:35 ` [PATCH 12/30] refs: extract packfile format to new file Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-11-07 18:35 ` [PATCH 13/30] packed-backend: extract add_write_error() Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-11-07 18:35 ` [PATCH 14/30] packed-backend: extract iterator/updates merge Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-11-07 18:35 ` [PATCH 15/30] packed-backend: create abstraction for writing refs Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-11-07 18:35 ` [PATCH 16/30] config: add config values for packed-refs v2 Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-11-07 18:35 ` [PATCH 17/30] packed-backend: create shell of v2 writes Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-11-07 18:35 ` [PATCH 18/30] packed-refs: write file format version 2 Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-11-07 18:35 ` [PATCH 19/30] packed-refs: read file format v2 Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-11-07 18:35 ` [PATCH 20/30] packed-refs: read optional prefix chunks Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-11-07 18:35 ` [PATCH 21/30] packed-refs: write " Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-11-07 18:35 ` [PATCH 22/30] packed-backend: create GIT_TEST_PACKED_REFS_VERSION Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-11-07 18:35 ` [PATCH 23/30] t1409: test with packed-refs v2 Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-11-07 18:35 ` [PATCH 24/30] t5312: allow packed-refs v2 format Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-11-07 18:35 ` [PATCH 25/30] t5502: add PACKED_REFS_V1 prerequisite Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-11-07 18:36 ` [PATCH 26/30] t3210: require packed-refs v1 for some tests Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-11-07 18:36 ` [PATCH 27/30] t*: skip packed-refs v2 over http tests Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-11-07 18:36 ` [PATCH 28/30] ci: run GIT_TEST_PACKED_REFS_VERSION=2 in some builds Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-11-07 18:36 ` [PATCH 29/30] p1401: create performance test for ref operations Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-11-07 18:36 ` [PATCH 30/30] refs: skip hashing when writing packed-refs v2 Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-11-09 15:15 ` [PATCH 00/30] [RFC] extensions.refFormat and packed-refs v2 file format Derrick Stolee
2022-11-11 23:28 ` Elijah Newren
2022-11-14  0:07   ` Derrick Stolee
2022-11-15  2:47     ` Elijah Newren
2022-11-16 14:45       ` Derrick Stolee
2022-11-17  4:28         ` Elijah Newren
2022-11-18 23:31     ` Junio C Hamano
2022-11-19  0:41       ` Elijah Newren
2022-11-19  3:00         ` Taylor Blau
2022-11-30 15:31       ` Derrick Stolee
2022-11-28 18:56 ` Han-Wen Nienhuys
2022-11-30 15:16   ` Derrick Stolee
2022-11-30 15:38     ` Phillip Wood
2022-11-30 16:37     ` Taylor Blau
2022-11-30 18:30     ` Han-Wen Nienhuys
2022-11-30 18:37       ` Sean Allred
2022-12-01 20:18       ` Derrick Stolee
2022-12-02 16:46         ` Han-Wen Nienhuys
2022-12-02 18:24           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-30 22:55     ` Junio C Hamano

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