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From: "wangyanan (Y)" <wangyanan55@huawei.com>
To: Andrew Jones <drjones@redhat.com>, Salil Mehta <salil.mehta@huawei.com>
Cc: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	"linuxarm@openeuler.org" <linuxarm@openeuler.org>,
	"Michael S . Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Linuxarm <linuxarm@huawei.com>,
	Shannon Zhao <shannon.zhaosl@gmail.com>,
	Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>,
	"qemu-arm@nongnu.org" <qemu-arm@nongnu.org>,
	Alistair Francis <alistair.francis@wdc.com>,
	"Zengtao \(B\)" <prime.zeng@hisilicon.com>,
	yangyicong <yangyicong@huawei.com>,
	yuzenghui <yuzenghui@huawei.com>,
	"Wanghaibin \(D\)" <wanghaibin.wang@huawei.com>,
	zhukeqian <zhukeqian1@huawei.com>,
	"lijiajie \(H\)" <lijiajie11@huawei.com>,
	David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 5/6] hw/arm/virt-acpi-build: Add PPTT table
Date: Wed, 19 May 2021 16:42:01 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d42d0132-43dd-9bd5-f3c5-a3f3e2eeb81e@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210519081507.mnk43k77wbekeany@gator.home>


On 2021/5/19 16:15, Andrew Jones wrote:
> On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 07:54:37AM +0000, Salil Mehta wrote:
>>> From: wangyanan (Y)
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2021 4:18 AM
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2021/5/19 3:22, Salil Mehta wrote:
>>>>> From: Andrew Jones [mailto:drjones@redhat.com]
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2021 8:06 PM
>>>>> To: Salil Mehta <salil.mehta@huawei.com>
>>>>> Cc: wangyanan (Y) <wangyanan55@huawei.com>; Peter Maydell
>>>>> <peter.maydell@linaro.org>; Michael S . Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>; Wanghaibin
>>>>> (D) <wanghaibin.wang@huawei.com>; qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Shannon Zhao
>>>>> <shannon.zhaosl@gmail.com>; qemu-arm@nongnu.org; Alistair Francis
>>>>> <alistair.francis@wdc.com>; Zengtao (B) <prime.zeng@hisilicon.com>;
>>>>> yangyicong <yangyicong@huawei.com>; yuzenghui <yuzenghui@huawei.com>; Igor
>>>>> Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>; zhukeqian <zhukeqian1@huawei.com>; lijiajie
>>> (H)
>>>>> <lijiajie11@huawei.com>; David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>;
>>> Linuxarm
>>>>> <linuxarm@huawei.com>; linuxarm@openeuler.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 5/6] hw/arm/virt-acpi-build: Add PPTT table
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 06:34:08PM +0000, Salil Mehta wrote:
>>>>>>    Those benefits, when vcpu pinning is used, are the same benefits
>>>>>>> as for the host, which already use PPTT tables to describe topology, even
>>>>>>> though hot plug isn't supported.
>>>>>> yes sure, you mean pinning vcpus according to the cpu topology for performance?
>>>>> Yup
>>>> Already Agreed :)
>>>>
>>>>>>> Now, if you're saying we should only generate tables for smp.cpus, not
>>>>>> Correct. This is what I thought we must be doing even now
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> smp.maxcpus, because hot plug isn't supported anyway, then I see your
>>>>>>> point. But, it'd be better to require smp.cpus == smp.maxcpus in our
>>>>>>> smp_parse function to do that, which we've never done before, so we may
>>>>>>> have trouble supporting existing command lines.
>>>>>> I am trying to recall, if the vcpu Hotplug is not supported then can they
>>>>>> ever be different?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> cpus =  (threads * cores * sockets)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> static void smp_parse(MachineState *ms, QemuOpts *opts)
>>>>>> {
>>>>>>        [...]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>           if (sockets * cores * threads != ms->smp.max_cpus) {
>>>>>>               warn_report("Invalid CPU topology deprecated: "
>>>>>>                           "sockets (%u) * cores (%u) * threads (%u) "
>>>>>>                           "!= maxcpus (%u)",
>>>>>>                           sockets, cores, threads,
>>>>>>                           ms->smp.max_cpus);
>>>>>>           }
>>>>>>        [...]
>>>>>> }
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Although, above check does not exit(1) and just warns on detecting invalid
>>>>>> CPU topology. Not sure why?
>>>>> Hmm, not sure what code you have there. I see this in
>>>>> hw/core/machine.c:smp_parse
>>>>>
>>>>>           if (ms->smp.max_cpus < cpus) {
>>>>>               error_report("maxcpus must be equal to or greater than smp");
>>>>>               exit(1);
>>>>>           }
>>>>>
>>>>>           if (sockets * cores * threads != ms->smp.max_cpus) {
>>>>>               error_report("Invalid CPU topology: "
>>>>>                            "sockets (%u) * cores (%u) * threads (%u) "
>>>>>                            "!= maxcpus (%u)",
>>>>>                            sockets, cores, threads,
>>>>>                            ms->smp.max_cpus);
>>>>>               exit(1);
>>>>>           }
>>>>>
>>>>>> Well if you think there are subtleties to support above implementation and
>>>>>> we cannot do it now then sure it is your call. :)
>>> Hi Salil, Drew,
>>>>> The problem is that -smp 4,maxcpus=8 doesn't error out today, even though
>>>>> it doesn't do anything. OTOH, -smp 4,cores=2 doesn't error out either, but
>>>>> we're proposing that it should. Maybe we can start erroring out when
>>>>> cpus != maxcpus until hot plug is supported?
>>>> Agreed, both don't make any sense if hotplug is not supported and ideally should
>>>> fail with error. We should block any such topology configuration.
>>> In the ARM-specific function virt_smp_parse() (patch 9), there already
>>> have been some restrictions for the given -smp configuration.
>>> We now only allow:
>>> -smp N
>>> -smp maxcpus=M
>>> -smp N, maxcpus=M
>>>
>>> -smp N, sockets=X, cores=Y
>>> -smp N, sockets=X, cores=Y, threads=Z
>>>
>>> -smp maxcpus=M, sockets=X, cores=Y
>>> -smp maxcpus=M, sockets=X, cores=Y, threads=Z
>>>
>>> -smp N, maxcpus=M, sockets=X, cores=Y
>>> -smp N, maxcpus=M, sockets=X, cores=Y, threads=Z
>>>
>>> and disallow the other strange and rare formats that shouldn't be provided.
>>>
>>> It's reasonable to block the topology configuration which is not useful
>>> currently. I will add the requirement for "cpus==maxcpus" in this fuction
>>> if the possible conflict with existing command lines is not a big problem.
>> Hi Yanan,
>> Makes sense. I did see your other patch-set in which cluster support has been
>> added. Are we deferring that too?
> The merge of that needs to be deferred, but for a different reason. It
> shouldn't impact hot plug, because if hot plug doesn't like clusters,
> then one could configure a topology which doesn't have clusters. But,
> it can't be merged to QEMU until the kernel has merged its support.
Agreed!

Thanks,
Yanan
> Thanks,
> drew
>
> .


  reply	other threads:[~2021-05-19  8:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-13  8:07 [RFC PATCH v2 0/6] hw/arm/virt: Introduce cpu topology support Yanan Wang
2021-04-13  8:07 ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/6] device_tree: Add qemu_fdt_add_path Yanan Wang
2021-04-16  4:52   ` David Gibson
2021-04-17  2:36     ` wangyanan (Y)
2021-04-19  1:13       ` David Gibson
2021-04-19  7:02         ` wangyanan (Y)
2021-04-13  8:07 ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/6] hw/arm/virt: DT: Add cpu-map Yanan Wang
2021-04-27  9:47   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-04-27 10:04     ` Andrew Jones
2021-04-27 12:36       ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-04-28  6:36         ` wangyanan (Y)
2021-05-13  6:58   ` Andrew Jones
2021-05-13  7:15     ` wangyanan (Y)
2021-04-13  8:07 ` [RFC PATCH v2 3/6] hw/arm/virt-acpi-build: Distinguish possible and present cpus Yanan Wang
2021-04-27 13:18   ` Andrew Jones
2021-04-28  6:42     ` wangyanan (Y)
2021-04-27 14:50   ` Andrew Jones
2021-04-28  6:47     ` wangyanan (Y)
2021-04-13  8:07 ` [RFC PATCH v2 4/6] hw/acpi/aml-build: Add processor hierarchy node structure Yanan Wang
2021-04-27 13:37   ` Andrew Jones
2021-04-28  6:59     ` wangyanan (Y)
2021-04-13  8:07 ` [RFC PATCH v2 5/6] hw/arm/virt-acpi-build: Add PPTT table Yanan Wang
2021-04-27 14:16   ` Andrew Jones
2021-04-28  7:30     ` wangyanan (Y)
2021-05-13  5:10   ` wangyanan (Y)
2021-05-13  6:55     ` Andrew Jones
2021-05-18  7:17     ` Salil Mehta
2021-05-18  7:42       ` Andrew Jones
2021-05-18 18:34         ` Salil Mehta
2021-05-18 19:05           ` Andrew Jones
2021-05-18 19:22             ` Salil Mehta
2021-05-19  3:18               ` wangyanan (Y)
2021-05-19  7:54                 ` Salil Mehta
2021-05-19  8:15                   ` Andrew Jones
2021-05-19  8:42                     ` wangyanan (Y) [this message]
2021-05-19 10:00                     ` Salil Mehta
2021-05-19  8:27             ` Andrew Jones
2021-05-19 13:26               ` wangyanan (Y)
2021-05-19 13:40                 ` wangyanan (Y)
2021-05-18  9:16       ` wangyanan (Y)
2021-04-13  8:07 ` [RFC PATCH v2 6/6] hw/arm/virt: Replace smp_parse with one that prefers cores Yanan Wang
2021-04-27 14:58   ` Andrew Jones
2021-04-28  8:04     ` wangyanan (Y)
2021-04-28  9:36     ` wangyanan (Y)
2021-04-28 10:13       ` Andrew Jones
2021-04-29  2:21         ` wangyanan (Y)
2021-04-21  7:40 ` [RFC PATCH v2 0/6] hw/arm/virt: Introduce cpu topology support wangyanan (Y)
2021-04-21  9:31 ` wangyanan (Y)

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