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From: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
To: Alexandre Chartre <alexandre.chartre@oracle.com>,
	pbonzini@redhat.com, rkrcmar@redhat.com, tglx@linutronix.de,
	mingo@redhat.com, bp@alien8.de, hpa@zytor.com,
	dave.hansen@linux.intel.com, luto@kernel.org,
	peterz@infradead.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: konrad.wilk@oracle.com, jan.setjeeilers@oracle.com,
	liran.alon@oracle.com, jwadams@google.com, graf@amazon.de,
	rppt@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [RFC v2 00/27] Kernel Address Space Isolation
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2019 06:51:02 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <dbbf6b05-14b6-d184-76f2-8d4da80cec75@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2791712a-9f7b-18bc-e686-653181461428@oracle.com>

On 7/12/19 1:09 AM, Alexandre Chartre wrote:
> On 7/12/19 12:38 AM, Dave Hansen wrote:
>> I don't see the per-cpu areas in here.  But, the ASI macros in
>> entry_64.S (and asi_start_abort()) use per-cpu data.
> 
> We don't map all per-cpu areas, but only the per-cpu variables we need. ASI
> code uses the per-cpu cpu_asi_session variable which is mapped when an ASI
> is created (see patch 15/26):

No fair!  I had per-cpu variables just for PTI at some point and had to
give them up! ;)

> +    /*
> +     * Map the percpu ASI sessions. This is used by interrupt handlers
> +     * to figure out if we have entered isolation and switch back to
> +     * the kernel address space.
> +     */
> +    err = ASI_MAP_CPUVAR(asi, cpu_asi_session);
> +    if (err)
> +        return err;
> 
> 
>> Also, this stuff seems to do naughty stuff (calling C code, touching
>> per-cpu data) before the PTI CR3 writes have been done.  But, I don't
>> see anything excluding PTI and this code from coexisting.
> 
> My understanding is that PTI CR3 writes only happens when switching to/from
> userland. While ASI enter/exit/abort happens while we are already in the
> kernel,
> so asi_start_abort() is not called when coming from userland and so not
> interacting with PTI.

OK, that makes sense.  You only need to call C code when interrupted
from something in the kernel (deeper than the entry code), and those
were already running kernel C code anyway.

If this continues to live in the entry code, I think you have a good
clue where to start commenting.

BTW, the PTI CR3 writes are not *strictly* about the interrupt coming
from user vs. kernel.  It's tricky because there's a window both in the
entry and exit code where you are in the kernel but have a userspace CR3
value.  You end up needing a CR3 write when you have a userspace CR3
value when the interrupt occurred, not only when you interrupt userspace
itself.

  reply	other threads:[~2019-07-12 13:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-11 14:25 [RFC v2 00/27] Kernel Address Space Isolation Alexandre Chartre
2019-07-11 14:25 ` [RFC v2 01/26] mm/x86: Introduce kernel address space isolation Alexandre Chartre
2019-07-11 21:33   ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-07-11 21:33     ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-07-12  7:43     ` Alexandre Chartre
2019-07-11 14:25 ` [RFC v2 02/26] mm/asi: Abort isolation on interrupt, exception and context switch Alexandre Chartre
2019-07-11 20:11   ` Andi Kleen
2019-07-11 20:11     ` Andi Kleen
2019-07-11 20:17     ` Mike Rapoport
2019-07-11 20:41       ` Alexandre Chartre
2019-07-12  0:05   ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-07-12  7:50     ` Alexandre Chartre
2019-07-11 14:25 ` [RFC v2 03/26] mm/asi: Handle page fault due to address space isolation Alexandre Chartre
2019-07-11 14:25 ` [RFC v2 04/26] mm/asi: Functions to track buffers allocated for an ASI page-table Alexandre Chartre
2019-07-11 14:25 ` [RFC v2 05/26] mm/asi: Add ASI page-table entry offset functions Alexandre Chartre
2019-07-11 14:25 ` [RFC v2 06/26] mm/asi: Add ASI page-table entry allocation functions Alexandre Chartre
2019-07-11 14:25 ` [RFC v2 07/26] mm/asi: Add ASI page-table entry set functions Alexandre Chartre
2019-07-11 14:25 ` [RFC v2 08/26] mm/asi: Functions to populate an ASI page-table from a VA range Alexandre Chartre
2019-07-11 14:25 ` [RFC v2 09/26] mm/asi: Helper functions to map module into ASI Alexandre Chartre
2019-07-11 14:25 ` [RFC v2 10/26] mm/asi: Keep track of VA ranges mapped in ASI page-table Alexandre Chartre
2019-07-11 14:25 ` [RFC v2 11/26] mm/asi: Functions to clear ASI page-table entries for a VA range Alexandre Chartre
2019-07-11 14:25 ` [RFC v2 12/26] mm/asi: Function to copy page-table entries for percpu buffer Alexandre Chartre
2019-07-11 14:25 ` [RFC v2 13/26] mm/asi: Add asi_remap() function Alexandre Chartre
2019-07-11 14:25 ` [RFC v2 14/26] mm/asi: Handle ASI mapped range leaks and overlaps Alexandre Chartre
2019-07-11 14:25 ` [RFC v2 15/26] mm/asi: Initialize the ASI page-table with core mappings Alexandre Chartre
2019-07-11 14:25 ` [RFC v2 16/26] mm/asi: Option to map current task into ASI Alexandre Chartre
2019-07-11 14:25 ` [RFC v2 17/26] rcu: Move tree.h static forward declarations to tree.c Alexandre Chartre
2019-07-11 14:25 ` [RFC v2 18/26] rcu: Make percpu rcu_data non-static Alexandre Chartre
2019-07-11 14:25 ` [RFC v2 19/26] mm/asi: Add option to map RCU data Alexandre Chartre
2019-07-11 14:25 ` [RFC v2 20/26] mm/asi: Add option to map cpu_hw_events Alexandre Chartre
2019-07-11 14:25 ` [RFC v2 21/26] mm/asi: Make functions to read cr3/cr4 ASI aware Alexandre Chartre
2019-07-11 14:25 ` [RFC v2 22/26] KVM: x86/asi: Introduce address_space_isolation module parameter Alexandre Chartre
2019-07-11 14:25 ` [RFC v2 23/26] KVM: x86/asi: Introduce KVM address space isolation Alexandre Chartre
2019-07-11 14:25 ` [RFC v2 24/26] KVM: x86/asi: Populate the KVM ASI page-table Alexandre Chartre
2019-07-11 14:25 ` [RFC v2 25/26] KVM: x86/asi: Switch to KVM address space on entry to guest Alexandre Chartre
2019-07-11 14:25 ` [RFC v2 26/26] KVM: x86/asi: Map KVM memslots and IO buses into KVM ASI Alexandre Chartre
2019-07-11 14:40 ` [RFC v2 00/27] Kernel Address Space Isolation Alexandre Chartre
2019-07-11 22:38 ` Dave Hansen
2019-07-12  8:09   ` Alexandre Chartre
2019-07-12 13:51     ` Dave Hansen [this message]
2019-07-12 14:06       ` Alexandre Chartre
2019-07-12 15:23         ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-07-12 15:23           ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-07-12 10:44   ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-07-12 10:44     ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-07-12 11:56     ` Alexandre Chartre
2019-07-12 12:50       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-07-12 13:43         ` Alexandre Chartre
2019-07-12 13:58           ` Dave Hansen
2019-07-12 14:36           ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-07-12 14:36             ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-07-14 18:17             ` Alexander Graf
2019-07-12 13:54         ` Dave Hansen
2019-07-12 15:20           ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-07-12 15:16         ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-07-12 15:16           ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-07-12 16:37           ` Alexandre Chartre
2019-07-12 16:45             ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-07-14 17:11               ` Mike Rapoport
2019-07-12 19:06             ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-07-14 15:06               ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-07-14 15:06                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-07-15 10:33                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-07-12 19:48             ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-07-12 19:48               ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-07-15  8:23               ` Alexandre Chartre
2019-07-15  8:28                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-07-15  8:28                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-07-12 16:00       ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-07-12 16:00         ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-07-12 11:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-07-12 12:17   ` Alexandre Chartre
2019-07-12 12:36     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-07-12 12:47       ` Alexandre Chartre
2019-07-12 13:07         ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-07-12 13:46           ` Alexandre Chartre
2019-07-31 16:31             ` Dario Faggioli
2019-07-31 16:31               ` Dario Faggioli
2019-08-22 12:31               ` Alexandre Chartre
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