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From: Manivannan Sadhasivam <manivannan.sadhasivam@linaro.org>
To: "André Przywara" <andre.przywara@arm.com>
Cc: "Amit Tomer" <amittomer25@gmail.com>,
	vkoul@kernel.org, "Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>,
	dan.j.williams@intel.com, cristian.ciocaltea@gmail.com,
	dmaengine@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	linux-actions@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 1/8] dmaengine: Actions: get rid of bit fields from dma descriptor
Date: Mon, 11 May 2020 17:34:58 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200511120458.GB3322@Mani-XPS-13-9360> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87569683-509e-96e6-17f9-c1734a8b32d4@arm.com>

On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 12:44:26PM +0100, André Przywara wrote:
> On 11/05/2020 12:20, Manivannan Sadhasivam wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> > On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 04:15:57PM +0530, Amit Tomer wrote:
> >> Hi
> >>
> >> Thanks for the reply.
> >>
> >>> I'm in favor of getting rid of bitfields due to its not so defined way of
> >>> working (and forgive me for using it in first place) but I don't quite like
> >>> the current approach.
> >>
> >> Because , its less readable the way we are writing to those different fields ?
> >> But this can be made more verbose by adding some comments around .
> >>
> > 
> > I don't like the way the hw linked lists are accessed (using an array with
> > enums).
> 
> But honestly this is the most sane way of doing this, see below.
> 
> >>> Rather I'd like to have custom bitmasks (S900/S700/S500?) for writing to those
> >>> fields.
> >>>
> >> I think S900 and S500 are same as pointed out by Cristian. and I didn't get by
> >> creating custom bitmasks for it ?
> >>
> >> Did you mean function like:
> >>
> >> lli->hw[OWL_DMADESC_FLEN]= llc_hw_FLEN(len, FCNT_VALUE, FCNT_SHIFT);
> >>
> > 
> > I meant to keep using old struct for accessing the linked list and replacing
> > bitfields with masks as below:
> > 
> > struct owl_dma_lli_hw {
> > 	...
> >         u32     flen;
> >         u32     fcnt;
> > 	...
> > };
> 
> And is think this is the wrong way of modelling hardware defined
> register fields. C structs have no guarantee of not introducing padding
> in between fields, the only guarantee you get is that the first member
> has no padding *before* it:
> C standard, section 6.7.2.1, end of paragraph 15:
> "There may be unnamed padding within a structure object, but not at its
> beginning."
> 
> Arrays in C on the contrary have very much this guarantee: The members
> are next to each other, no padding.
> 
> I see that structs are sometimes used in this function, but it's much
> less common in the kernel than in other projects (U-Boot comes to mind).
> It typically works, because common compiler *implementations* provide
> this guarantee, but we should not rely on this.
> 
> So:
> Using enums for the keys provides a natural way of increasing indices,
> without gaps. Also you get this nice and automatic size value by making
> this the last member of the enum.
> Arrays provide the guarantee of consecutive allocation.
> 

I agree with your concerns of using struct for defining registers. But we can
safely live with the existing implementation since all fields are u32 and if
needed we can also add '__packed' flag to it to avoid padding for any cases.

The reason why I prefer to stick to this is, this is a hardware linked list and
by defining it as an array and accessing the fields using enums looks awful to
me. Other than that there is no real justification to shy away.

When you are modelling a plain register bank (which we are also doing in this
driver), I'd prefer to use the defines directly.

> We can surely have a look at the masking problem, but this would need to
> be runtime determined masks, which tend to become "wordy". There can be
> simplifications, for instance I couldn't find where the frame length is
> really limited for the S900 (it must be less than 1MB). Since the S700
> supports *more* than that, there is no need to limit this differently.

I was just giving an example of how to handle the bitmasks for different
SoCs if needed. So yeah if it can be avoided, feel free to drop it.

Thanks,
Mani

> 
> Cheers,
> Andre.
> 
> 
> > 
> > hw->flen = len & OWL_S900_DMA_FLEN_MASK;
> > hw->fcnt = 1 & OWL_S900_DMA_FCNT_MASK;
> > 
> > Then you can use different masks for S700/S900 based on the compatible.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Mani
> > 
> >> Thanks
> >> -Amit
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2020-05-11 12:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1588761371-9078-1-git-send-email-amittomer25@gmail.com>
2020-05-06 10:36 ` [PATCH RFC 1/8] dmaengine: Actions: get rid of bit fields from dma descriptor Amit Singh Tomar
2020-05-10 15:51   ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2020-05-11 10:45     ` Amit Tomer
2020-05-11 11:20       ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2020-05-11 11:44         ` André Przywara
2020-05-11 12:04           ` Manivannan Sadhasivam [this message]
2020-05-11 12:48             ` André Przywara
2020-05-11 15:29               ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2020-05-06 10:36 ` [PATCH RFC 2/8] dmaengine: Actions: Add support for S700 DMA engine Amit Singh Tomar
2020-05-06 11:12   ` André Przywara
2020-05-06 12:54     ` Amit Tomer
2020-05-06 13:04       ` André Przywara

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