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From: Ferruh Yigit <ferruh.yigit@intel.com>
To: "Burakov, Anatoly" <anatoly.burakov@intel.com>,
	Kiran Kumar Kokkilagadda <kirankumark@marvell.com>
Cc: "dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>,
	Jerin Jacob <jerin.jacob@caviumnetworks.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] kni: add IOVA va support for kni
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2019 12:21:17 +0100
Message-ID: <305ee63d-4f7c-da9d-a1a2-e761a9fcedd2@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4c3ef828-652b-1498-b89b-7b7b58208f46@intel.com>

On 4/4/2019 10:57 AM, Burakov, Anatoly wrote:
> On 03-Apr-19 5:29 PM, Ferruh Yigit wrote:
>> On 4/1/2019 10:51 AM, Kiran Kumar Kokkilagadda wrote:
>>> From: Kiran Kumar K <kirankumark@marvell.com>
>>>
>>> With current KNI implementation kernel module will work only in
>>> IOVA=PA mode. This patch will add support for kernel module to work
>>> with IOVA=VA mode.
>>
>> Thanks Kiran for removing the limitation, I have a few questions, can you please
>> help me understand.
>>
>> And when this patch is ready, the restriction in 'linux/eal/eal.c', in
>> 'rte_eal_init' should be removed, perhaps with this patch. I assume you already
>> doing it to be able to test this patch.
>>
>>>
>>> The idea is to maintain a mapping in KNI module between user pages and
>>> kernel pages and in fast path perform a lookup in this table and get
>>> the kernel virtual address for corresponding user virtual address.
>>>
>>> In IOVA=VA mode, the memory allocated to the pool is physically
>>> and virtually contiguous. We will take advantage of this and create a
>>> mapping in the kernel.In kernel we need mapping for queues
>>> (tx_q, rx_q,... slow path) and mbuf memory (fast path).
>>
>> Is it?
>> As far as I know mempool can have multiple chunks and they can be both virtually
>> and physically separated.
>>
>> And even for a single chunk, that will be virtually continuous, but will it be
>> physically continuous?
> 
> Just to clarify.
> 
> Within DPDK, we do not make a distinction between physical address and 
> IOVA address - we never need the actual physical address, we just need 
> the DMA addresses, which can either match the physical address, or be 
> completely arbitrary (in our case, they will match VA addresses, but it 
> doesn't have to be the case - in fact, 17.11 will, under some 
> circumstances, populate IOVA addresses simply starting from address 0).
> 
> However, one has to remember that IOVA address *is not a physical 
> address*. The pages backing a VA chunk may be *IOVA*-contiguous, but may 
> not necessarily be *physically* contiguous. Under normal circumstances 
> we really don't care, because the VFIO/IOMMU takes care of the mapping 
> between IOVA and PA transparently for the hardware.
> 
> So, in IOVA as VA mode, the memory allocated to the mempool will be 
> (within a given chunk) both VA and IOVA contiguous - but not necessarily 
> *physically* contiguous! In fact, if you try calling rte_mem_virt2phy() 
> on the mempool pages, you'll likely find that they aren't (i've seen 
> cases where pages were mapped /backwards/!).
> 
> Therefore, unless by "physically contiguous" you mean "IOVA-contiguous", 
> you *cannot* rely on memory in mempool being *physically* contiguous 
> merely based on the fact that it's IOVA-contiguous.

Thanks for clarification.

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Thread overview: 103+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-09-27 10:49 [PATCH] " Kiran Kumar
2018-09-27 10:58 ` Burakov, Anatoly
2018-10-02 17:05 ` Ferruh Yigit
2019-04-01 17:30   ` Jerin Jacob Kollanukkaran
2019-04-01 18:20     ` Ferruh Yigit
2019-04-01  9:51 ` [PATCH v2] " Kiran Kumar Kokkilagadda
2019-04-03 16:29   ` Ferruh Yigit
2019-04-04  5:03     ` [dpdk-dev] [EXT] " Kiran Kumar Kokkilagadda
2019-04-04 11:20       ` Ferruh Yigit
2019-04-04 13:29         ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-04-04  9:57     ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-04-04 11:21       ` Ferruh Yigit [this message]
2019-04-16  4:55   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3] " kirankumark
2019-04-19 10:38     ` Thomas Monjalon
2019-04-22  4:39     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4] " kirankumark
2019-04-22  6:15       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5] " kirankumark
2019-04-26  9:11         ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-06-25  3:56         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 0/4] add IOVA = VA support in KNI vattunuru
2019-06-25  3:56           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 1/4] lib/mempool: skip populating mempool objs that falls on page boundaries vattunuru
2019-06-25  3:56           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 2/4] lib/kni: add PCI related information vattunuru
2019-06-25 17:41             ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-06-26  3:48               ` [dpdk-dev] [EXT] " Vamsi Krishna Attunuru
2019-06-26 14:58                 ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-06-27  9:43                   ` Vamsi Krishna Attunuru
2019-07-11 16:22             ` [dpdk-dev] " Ferruh Yigit
2019-07-12 11:02               ` [dpdk-dev] [EXT] " Vamsi Krishna Attunuru
2019-07-12 11:11                 ` Ferruh Yigit
2019-06-25  3:56           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 3/4] example/kni: add IOVA support for kni application vattunuru
2019-07-11 16:23             ` Ferruh Yigit
2019-06-25  3:57           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 4/4] kernel/linux/kni: add IOVA support in kni module vattunuru
2019-07-11 16:30             ` Ferruh Yigit
2019-07-12 10:38               ` [dpdk-dev] [EXT] " Vamsi Krishna Attunuru
2019-07-12 11:10                 ` Ferruh Yigit
2019-07-12 12:27                   ` Vamsi Krishna Attunuru
2019-07-12 16:29                   ` Vamsi Krishna Attunuru
2019-07-15 11:26                     ` Ferruh Yigit
2019-07-15 13:06                       ` Vamsi Krishna Attunuru
2019-07-11 16:43             ` [dpdk-dev] " Stephen Hemminger
2019-06-25 10:00           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 0/4] add IOVA = VA support in KNI Burakov, Anatoly
2019-06-25 11:15             ` Jerin Jacob Kollanukkaran
2019-06-25 11:30               ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-06-25 13:38                 ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-06-27  9:34                   ` Jerin Jacob Kollanukkaran
2019-07-01 13:51                     ` Vamsi Krishna Attunuru
2019-07-04  6:42                       ` Vamsi Krishna Attunuru
2019-07-04  9:48                         ` Jerin Jacob Kollanukkaran
2019-07-11 16:21                           ` Ferruh Yigit
2019-07-17  9:04           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 0/4] kni: add IOVA=VA support vattunuru
2019-07-17  9:04             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 1/4] mempool: modify mempool populate() to skip objects from page boundaries vattunuru
2019-07-17 13:36               ` Andrew Rybchenko
2019-07-17 13:47                 ` Olivier Matz
2019-07-17 17:31                 ` Vamsi Krishna Attunuru
2019-07-18  9:28                   ` Andrew Rybchenko
2019-07-18 14:16                     ` Vamsi Krishna Attunuru
2019-07-19 13:38                       ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC 0/4] mempool: avoid objects allocations across pages Olivier Matz
2019-07-19 13:38                         ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC 1/4] mempool: clarify default populate function Olivier Matz
2019-07-19 15:42                           ` Andrew Rybchenko
2019-07-19 13:38                         ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC 2/4] mempool: unalign size when calculating required mem amount Olivier Matz
2019-08-07 15:21                           ` [dpdk-dev] ***Spam*** " Andrew Rybchenko
2019-07-19 13:38                         ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC 3/4] mempool: introduce function to get mempool page size Olivier Matz
2019-08-07 15:21                           ` Andrew Rybchenko
2019-07-19 13:38                         ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC 4/4] mempool: prevent objects from being across pages Olivier Matz
2019-07-19 14:03                           ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-07-19 14:11                           ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-08-07 15:21                           ` Andrew Rybchenko
2019-07-23  5:37                         ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC 0/4] mempool: avoid objects allocations " Vamsi Krishna Attunuru
2019-08-07 15:21                         ` [dpdk-dev] ***Spam*** " Andrew Rybchenko
2019-07-17  9:04             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 2/4] kni: add IOVA = VA support in KNI lib vattunuru
2019-07-17  9:04             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 3/4] kni: add IOVA=VA support in KNI module vattunuru
2019-07-17  9:04             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 4/4] kni: modify IOVA mode checks to support VA vattunuru
2019-07-23  5:38             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 0/5] kni: add IOVA=VA support vattunuru
2019-07-23  5:38               ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 1/5] mempool: populate mempool with page sized chunks of memory vattunuru
2019-07-23 11:08                 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2019-07-23 12:28                   ` Vamsi Krishna Attunuru
2019-07-23 19:33                     ` Andrew Rybchenko
2019-07-24  7:09                       ` Vamsi Krishna Attunuru
2019-07-24  7:27                         ` Andrew Rybchenko
2019-07-29  6:25                           ` Vamsi Krishna Attunuru
2019-07-23  5:38               ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 2/5] add IOVA -VA support in KNI lib vattunuru
2019-07-23 10:54                 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2019-07-23  5:38               ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 3/5] kni: add app specific mempool create & free routine vattunuru
2019-07-23 10:50                 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2019-07-23 11:01                   ` Vamsi Krishna Attunuru
2019-07-23  5:38               ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 4/5] kni: add IOVA=VA support in KNI module vattunuru
2019-07-23  5:38               ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 5/5] kni: modify IOVA mode checks to support VA vattunuru
2019-07-24  7:14               ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 0/5] kni: add IOVA=VA support Vamsi Krishna Attunuru
2019-07-29 12:13               ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 " vattunuru
2019-07-29 12:13                 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 1/5] mempool: populate mempool with the page sized chunks of memory vattunuru
2019-07-29 12:41                   ` Andrew Rybchenko
2019-07-29 13:33                     ` [dpdk-dev] [EXT] " Vamsi Krishna Attunuru
2019-08-16  6:12                   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 0/5] kni: add IOVA=VA support vattunuru
2019-08-16  6:12                     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 1/5] mempool: populate mempool with the page sized chunks vattunuru
2019-08-16  6:12                     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 2/5] kni: add IOVA=VA support in KNI lib vattunuru
2019-08-16  6:12                     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 3/5] kni: add app specific mempool create and free routines vattunuru
2019-08-16  6:12                     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 4/5] kni: add IOVA=VA support in KNI module vattunuru
2019-08-16  6:12                     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 5/5] kni: modify IOVA mode checks to support VA vattunuru
2019-07-29 12:13                 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 2/5] kni: add IOVA=VA support in KNI lib vattunuru
2019-07-29 12:24                   ` Igor Ryzhov
2019-07-29 13:22                     ` [dpdk-dev] [EXT] " Vamsi Krishna Attunuru
2019-07-29 12:13                 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 3/5] kni: add app specific mempool create & free routine vattunuru
2019-07-29 12:13                 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 4/5] kni: add IOVA=VA support in KNI module vattunuru
2019-07-29 12:13                 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 5/5] kni: modify IOVA mode checks to support VA vattunuru
2019-04-23  8:56       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4] kni: add IOVA va support for kni Burakov, Anatoly

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