Re: [PATCH v4 3/4] drm: Document variable refresh properties

["Michel Dänzer" <michel-otUistvHUpPR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>]

On 2018-10-29 7:03 p.m., Ville Syrjälä wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 05:37:49PM +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote:
>> On 2018-10-26 7:59 p.m., Ville Syrjälä wrote:
>>> On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 05:34:15PM +0000, Kazlauskas, Nicholas wrote:
>>>> On 10/26/18 10:53 AM, Ville Syrjälä wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Speaking of timestamps. What is the expected behaviour of vblank
>>>>> timestamps when vrr is enabled?
>>>>
>>>> When vrr is enabled the duration of the vertical front porch will be
>>>> extended until flip or timeout occurs. The vblank timestamp will vary
>>>> based on duration of the vertical front porch. The min/max duration for
>>>> the front porch can be specified by the driver via the min/max range.
>>>>
>>>> No changes to vblank timestamping handling should be necessary to
>>>> accommodate variable refresh rate.
>>>
>>> The problem is that the timestamp is supposed to correspond to the first
>>> active pixel. And since we don't know how long the front porch will be
>>> we can't realistically report the true value. So I guess just assuming
>>> min front porch length is as good as anything else?
>>
>> That (and documenting that the timestamp corresponds to the earliest
>> possible first active pixel, not necessarily the actual one, with VRR)
>> might be good enough for the actual vblank event timestamps.
>>
>>
>> However, I'm not so sure about the timestamps of page flip completion
>> events. Those could be very misleading if the flip completes towards the
>> timeout, which could result in bad behaviour of applications which use
>> them for animation timing.
>>
>> Maybe the timestamp could be updated appropriately (yes, I'm hand-waving
>> :) in drm_crtc_send_vblank_event?
> 
> Hmm. Updated how? Whether it's a page flip event or vblank even we won't
> know when the first active pixel will come. Although I suppose if
> there is some kind of vrr slew rate limit we could at least account
> for that to report a more correct "this is the earliest you migth be
> able to see your frame" timestamp.
> 
> Oh, or are you actually saying that shceduling a new flip before the
> timeout is actually going to latch that flip immediately? I figured
> that the flip would get latched on the next start of vblank regardless,
> and the act of scheduling a flip will just kick the hardware to start
> scanning the previously latched frame earlier.
> 
> scanout A | ... vblank | scanout A | ... vblank | scanout B | ... vblank
>                   ^                ^        ^               ^
>                   |                |        flip C          latch C
>                   flip B           latch B

This would kind of defeat the point of VRR, wouldn't it? If a flip was
scheduled after the start of vblank, the vblank would always time out,
resulting in the minimum refresh rate.


> scanout A | ... vblank | scanout B | ... vblank | scanout C | ... vblank
>                   ^ ^                      ^ ^
>                   | latch B                | latch C
>                   flip B                   flip C

So this is what happens.

Regardless, when the flip is latched, AMD hardware generates a "pflip"
interrupt, and its handler calls drm_crtc_send_vblank_event (and in the
case of DC drm_crtc_accurate_vblank_count before that). So the time when
drm_crtc_send_vblank_event is called might be a good approximation of
when scanout of the next frame starts.

Another possibility might be to wait for the hardware vline counter to
wrap around to 0 before calling drm_crtc_accurate_vblank_count, then the
calculations should be based on 0 instead of crtc_vtotal.


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Earthling Michel Dänzer               |               http://www.amd.com
Libre software enthusiast             |             Mesa and X developer
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