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From: Kieran Bingham <kieran.bingham@ideasonboard.com>
To: Doug Anderson <dianders@chromium.org>
Cc: Jernej Skrabec <jernej.skrabec@siol.net>,
	Neil Armstrong <narmstrong@baylibre.com>,
	Jonas Karlman <jonas@kwiboo.se>,
	dri-devel <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	Stephen Boyd <swboyd@chromium.org>,
	Linux-Renesas <linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrzej Hajda <a.hajda@samsung.com>,
	Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 11/11] drm/bridge: ti-sn65dsi86: Support hotplug detection
Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2022 15:45:56 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <164640875638.4039516.894310137608889285@Monstersaurus> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAD=FV=VxOOhZMjVWzXHbEV_EZKRLxtuKgbko-7SUFMsj7upz0g@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Doug,

Quoting Doug Anderson (2022-02-23 18:25:13)
> Hi,
> 
> On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 9:43 AM Kieran Bingham
> <kieran.bingham@ideasonboard.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I'm working to respin the remainder of these patches, now that I have
> > IRQ based HPD working on the SN65DSI86, and the (non-eDP) mode is used
> > for Renesas R-Car boards.
> >
> > Quoting Doug Anderson (2021-06-24 00:51:12)
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 4:26 PM Laurent Pinchart
> > > <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > > @@ -1365,7 +1384,8 @@ static int ti_sn_bridge_probe(struct i2c_client *client,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >         pdata->bridge.funcs = &ti_sn_bridge_funcs;
> > > > > >         pdata->bridge.of_node = client->dev.of_node;
> > > > > > -       pdata->bridge.ops = DRM_BRIDGE_OP_EDID;
> > > > > > +       pdata->bridge.ops = (pdata->no_hpd ? 0 : DRM_BRIDGE_OP_DETECT)
> > > > >
> > > > > Checking for "no_hpd" here is not the right test IIUC. You want to
> > > > > check for eDP vs. DP (AKA whether a panel is downstream of you or a
> > > > > connector). Specifically if downstream of you is a panel then (I
> > > > > believe) HPD won't assert until you turn on the panel and you won't
> > > > > turn on the panel (which happens in pre_enable, right?) until HPD
> > > > > fires, so you've got a chicken-and-egg problem. If downstream of you
> > > > > is a connector, though, then by definition HPD has to just work
> > > > > without pre_enable running so then you're OK.
> > > >
> > > > Agreed. It's even more true now that your rework has landed, as in the
> > > > eDP case EDID is handled by the panel driver. I'll rework this.
> > > >
> > > > Should I also condition setting HPD_DISABLE to the presence of a panel
> > > > then ? I could drop of_property_read_bool() and set
> > > >
> > > >         pdata->no_hpd = !!panel;
> > > >
> > > > > I guess then you'd need to figure out what to do if someone wants to
> > > > > use "HPD" on eDP. Do you need to put a polling loop in pre_enable
> > > > > then? Or you could just punt not support this case until someone needs
> > > > > it.
> > > >
> > > > I think I'll stop short of saving the world this time, yes :-) We'll see
> > > > what to do when this case arises.
> > >
> > > How about as a compromise you still call of_property_read_bool() but
> > > add some type of warning in the logs if someone didn't set "no-hpd"
> > > but they have a panel?
> >
> >
> > Would a mix of the two work well?
> >
> > What about:
> >
> >         pdata->no_hpd = of_property_read_bool(np, "no-hpd");
> >         if (panel && !pdata->no_hpd) {
> >                 DRM_ERROR("Panels will not function with HPD. Enforcing no-hpd\n");
> >                 pdata->no_hpd = true;
> >         }
> >
> > That leaves it still optional to DP connectors, but enforced on eDP?
> 
> Yeah, that's fine with me. Nits would be to use "warn" instead of
> "error" since this isn't fatal and use the non-SHOUTING versions of
> the prints since the SHOUTING versions are deprecated.

Could you clarify this please? The whole driver uses DRM_ERROR style. Is
there a new debug macro somewhere?


> 
> 
> > > > > > +                         | DRM_BRIDGE_OP_EDID;
> > > > >
> > > > > IMO somewhere in here if HPD is being used like this you should throw
> > > > > in a call to pm_runtime_get_sync(). I guess in your solution the
> > > > > regulators (for the bridge, not the panel) and enable pin are just
> > > > > left on all the time,
> > > >
> > > > Correct, on my development board the SN65DSI86 is on all the time, I
> > > > can't control that.
> > > >
> > > > > but plausibly someone might want to build a
> > > > > system to use HPD and also have the enable pin and/or regulators
> > > > > controlled by this driver, right?
> > > >
> > > > True. DRM doesn't make this very easy, as, as far as I can tell, there's
> > > > no standard infrastructure for userspace to register an interest in HPD
> > > > that could be notified to bridges. I think it should be fixable, but
> > > > it's out of scope for this series :-) Should I still add a
> > > > pm_runtime_get_sync() at probe time, or leave this to be addressed by
> > > > someone who will need to implement power control ?
> > >
> > > IMO if you've detected you're running in DP mode you should add the
> > > pm_runtime_get_sync() in probe to keep it powered all the time and
> > > that seems the simplest. Technically I guess that's not really
> > > required since you're polling and you could power off between polls,
> > > but then you'd have to re-init a bunch of your state each time you
> > > polled too. If you ever transitioned to using an IRQ for HPD then
> > > you'd have to keep it always powered anyway.
> >
> >
> > Hrm ... that's precisely what I've done. It's not IRQ based HPD...
> >
> > So would you like to see something like this during
> > ti_sn_bridge_probe()?
> >
> >         /* The device must remain powered up for HPD to be supported. */
> >         if (!pdata->no_hpd)
> >                 pm_runtime_get_sync(pdata->dev);
> 
> Yeah, seems reasonable. Probably you'd want to add a devm action to put it too?

Ok, looking at this now - then I should be able to get these updated
patches out.

--
Thanks.

Kieran


> 
> -Doug

  reply	other threads:[~2022-03-04 15:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-22  3:01 [RFC PATCH 00/11] drm/bridge: ti-sn65dsi86: Support DisplayPort mode Laurent Pinchart
2021-03-22  3:01 ` [RFC PATCH 01/11] dt-bindings: drm/bridge: ti-sn65dsi8: Make enable GPIO optional Laurent Pinchart
2021-03-22 10:29   ` Jagan Teki
2021-03-23  7:10   ` Stephen Boyd
2021-03-23 21:08   ` Doug Anderson
2021-03-27 16:42   ` Rob Herring
2021-03-22  3:01 ` [RFC PATCH 02/11] drm/bridge: ti-sn65dsi86: " Laurent Pinchart
2021-03-22 10:29   ` Jagan Teki
2021-03-23  7:10   ` Stephen Boyd
2021-03-23 21:08   ` Doug Anderson
2021-03-22  3:01 ` [RFC PATCH 03/11] drm/bridge: ti-sn65dsi86: Unregister AUX adapter in remove() Laurent Pinchart
2021-03-23  7:10   ` Stephen Boyd
2021-03-23 21:08   ` Doug Anderson
2021-03-23 21:41     ` Laurent Pinchart
2021-03-23 22:55       ` Doug Anderson
2021-03-23 23:02         ` Laurent Pinchart
2021-03-26  0:43           ` Doug Anderson
2021-03-26  1:01             ` Laurent Pinchart
2021-03-22  3:01 ` [RFC PATCH 04/11] drm/bridge: ti-sn65dsi86: Use bitmask to store valid rates Laurent Pinchart
2021-03-23  7:11   ` Stephen Boyd
2021-03-23 21:08   ` Doug Anderson
2021-03-23 21:45     ` Laurent Pinchart
2021-03-23 22:45       ` Doug Anderson
2021-03-24  8:47     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-03-22  3:01 ` [RFC PATCH 05/11] drm/bridge: ti-sn65dsi86: Wrap panel with panel-bridge Laurent Pinchart
2021-03-22 10:19   ` Jagan Teki
2021-03-23  7:14   ` Stephen Boyd
2021-03-23 21:50     ` Laurent Pinchart
2021-03-24 22:44   ` Doug Anderson
2021-03-26  1:06     ` Laurent Pinchart
2021-03-22  3:01 ` [RFC PATCH 06/11] drm/bridge: ti-sn65dsi86: Group code in sections Laurent Pinchart
2021-03-23  7:14   ` Stephen Boyd
2021-03-24 22:44   ` Doug Anderson
2021-03-22  3:01 ` [RFC PATCH 07/11] drm/bridge: ti-sn65dsi86: Split connector creation to a function Laurent Pinchart
2021-03-23  7:15   ` Stephen Boyd
2021-03-24 22:44   ` Doug Anderson
2021-03-22  3:01 ` [RFC PATCH 08/11] drm/bridge: ti-sn65dsi86: Implement bridge connector operations Laurent Pinchart
2021-03-23  7:15   ` Stephen Boyd
2021-03-24 22:46   ` Doug Anderson
2021-03-26  1:40     ` Laurent Pinchart
2021-03-22  3:01 ` [RFC PATCH 09/11] drm/bridge: ti-sn65dsi86: Make connector creation optional Laurent Pinchart
2021-03-22  3:01 ` [RFC PATCH 10/11] drm/bridge: ti-sn65dsi86: Support DisplayPort (non-eDP) mode Laurent Pinchart
2021-03-24 22:47   ` Doug Anderson
2021-06-23 13:59     ` Laurent Pinchart
2022-02-23 18:04       ` Kieran Bingham
2022-02-23 18:20         ` Doug Anderson
2022-03-04 15:49           ` Laurent Pinchart
2021-03-22  3:01 ` [RFC PATCH 11/11] drm/bridge: ti-sn65dsi86: Support hotplug detection Laurent Pinchart
2021-03-23  7:21   ` Stephen Boyd
2021-03-24 22:47   ` Doug Anderson
2021-06-23 23:25     ` Laurent Pinchart
2021-06-23 23:51       ` Doug Anderson
2022-02-23 17:43         ` Kieran Bingham
2022-02-23 18:25           ` Doug Anderson
2022-03-04 15:45             ` Kieran Bingham [this message]
2022-03-04 16:30               ` Doug Anderson

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