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@ 2020-02-27 21:27 Daniel Vetter
  2020-02-27 23:45 ` Matt Turner
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  0 siblings, 5 replies; 60+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Vetter @ 2020-02-27 21:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: gstreamer-devel, Xorg Members List, Mesa Dev, X.Org development,
	wayland, dri-devel, amd-gfx list, intel-gfx
  Cc: X.Org Foundation Board

Hi all,

You might have read the short take in the X.org board meeting minutes
already, here's the long version.

The good news: gitlab.fd.o has become very popular with our
communities, and is used extensively. This especially includes all the
CI integration. Modern development process and tooling, yay!

The bad news: The cost in growth has also been tremendous, and it's
breaking our bank account. With reasonable estimates for continued
growth we're expecting hosting expenses totalling 75k USD this year,
and 90k USD next year. With the current sponsors we've set up we can't
sustain that. We estimate that hosting expenses for gitlab.fd.o
without any of the CI features enabled would total 30k USD, which is
within X.org's ability to support through various sponsorships, mostly
through XDC.

Note that X.org does no longer sponsor any CI runners themselves,
we've stopped that. The huge additional expenses are all just in
storing and serving build artifacts and images to outside CI runners
sponsored by various companies. A related topic is that with the
growth in fd.o it's becoming infeasible to maintain it all on
volunteer admin time. X.org is therefore also looking for admin
sponsorship, at least medium term.

Assuming that we want cash flow reserves for one year of gitlab.fd.o
(without CI support) and a trimmed XDC and assuming no sponsor payment
meanwhile, we'd have to cut CI services somewhere between May and June
this year. The board is of course working on acquiring sponsors, but
filling a shortfall of this magnitude is neither easy nor quick work,
and we therefore decided to give an early warning as soon as possible.
Any help in finding sponsors for fd.o is very much appreciated.

Thanks, Daniel
-- 
Daniel Vetter
Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
+41 (0) 79 365 57 48 - http://blog.ffwll.ch
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2020-02-27 21:27 gitlab.fd.o financial situation and impact on services Daniel Vetter
2020-02-27 23:45 ` Matt Turner
2020-02-28  7:59   ` Daniel Stone
2020-02-28 10:09     ` Jan Engelhardt
2020-02-28 11:11       ` Daniel Stone
2020-02-28 21:20     ` Matt Turner
2020-02-28  0:21 ` Luc Verhaegen
2020-02-28  0:33 ` Carsten Haitzler
2020-02-28  1:00 ` [Mesa-dev] " Tom Stellard
2020-02-28  1:08   ` Tom Stellard
2020-02-28  3:37 ` [Intel-gfx] " Dave Airlie
2020-02-28  7:44   ` Daniel Vetter
2020-02-28  8:17   ` Daniel Stone
2020-02-28  8:48     ` Dave Airlie
2020-02-28  9:26       ` Daniel Stone
2020-02-28 19:34       ` [Mesa-dev] " Eric Anholt
2020-02-28 20:30         ` Dave Airlie
2020-02-28 21:22           ` Daniel Vetter
2020-02-28 21:37             ` Nuritzi Sanchez
2020-04-04 13:55         ` Andreas Bergmeier
2020-04-05 14:07           ` Nicolas Dufresne
2020-02-28  9:28   ` Erik Faye-Lund
2020-02-28  9:40     ` Lionel Landwerlin
2020-02-28 10:06       ` Erik Faye-Lund
2020-02-28 10:43         ` Daniel Stone
2020-02-28 11:02           ` Erik Faye-Lund
2020-02-28 11:46             ` Michel Dänzer
2020-02-28 13:08               ` Lionel Landwerlin
2020-02-29 18:14           ` Timur Kristóf
2020-02-29 19:46             ` Nicolas Dufresne
2020-02-29 20:28               ` Timur Kristóf
2020-02-29 21:54                 ` Jason Ekstrand
2020-02-29 22:20                   ` Nicolas Dufresne
2020-03-01  5:46                     ` Marek Olšák
2020-04-03 14:12                       ` Michel Dänzer
2020-04-04 15:11                         ` Rob Clark
2020-04-04 17:47                           ` Nicolas Dufresne
2020-04-04 18:16                             ` Rob Clark
2020-04-04 18:41                               ` Rob Clark
2020-04-04 18:47                                 ` Rob Clark
2020-04-04 23:39                               ` Peter Hutterer
2020-04-04 23:32                           ` Peter Hutterer
2020-04-06 15:42                           ` Adam Jackson
2020-04-06 16:34                             ` Rob Clark
2020-04-06 17:04                               ` Michel Dänzer
2020-04-06 18:00                                 ` Rob Clark
2020-03-01 14:14               ` [Mesa-dev] [Intel-gfx] " Michel Dänzer
2020-03-01 14:27                 ` Nicolas Dufresne
2020-03-01 19:51                   ` Jacob Lifshay
2020-03-01 20:18                     ` [Intel-gfx] [Mesa-dev] " Jason Ekstrand
2020-03-01 20:30                       ` Bridgman, John
2020-03-01 20:49                       ` Nicolas Dufresne
2020-03-02  4:53                         ` Jason Ekstrand
2020-02-28  9:47     ` [Mesa-dev] [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2020-02-28 10:10       ` Erik Faye-Lund
2020-02-28 10:27       ` Lucas Stach
2020-02-28 11:43     ` Michel Dänzer
2020-02-28 17:00       ` [Intel-gfx] [Mesa-dev] " Rob Clark
2020-02-29 15:58         ` Jason Ekstrand
2020-02-28 18:03   ` [Intel-gfx] " Kristian Høgsberg

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