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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
To: Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>
Cc: "Leon Romanovsky" <leon@kernel.org>,
	"linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org" <linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org>,
	"dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org"
	<dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	"Doug Ledford" <dledford@redhat.com>,
	"Vetter, Daniel" <daniel.vetter@intel.com>,
	"Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
	"Xiong, Jianxin" <jianxin.xiong@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v3 1/4] RDMA/umem: Support importing dma-buf as user memory region
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2020 15:38:34 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201006183834.GK5177@ziepe.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKMK7uEN7=QGOJMMf5UwR5Azsk+3-apFjn_hFmoSUTDOh1f85g@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Oct 06, 2020 at 08:17:05PM +0200, Daniel Vetter wrote:

> So on the gpu we pipeline this all. So step 4 doesn't happen on the
> cpu, but instead we queue up a bunch of command buffers so that the
> gpu writes these pagetables (and the flushes tlbs and then does the
> actual stuff userspace wants it to do).

mlx5 HW does basically this as well.

We just apply scheduling for this work on the device, not in the CPU.
 
> just queue it all up and let the gpu scheduler sort out the mess. End
> result is that you get a sgt that points at stuff which very well
> might have nothing even remotely resembling your buffer in there at
> the moment. But all the copy operations are queued up, so rsn the data
> will also be there.

The explanation make sense, thanks

> But rdma doesn't work like that, so it looks all a bit funny.

Well, I guess it could, but how would it make anything better? I can
overlap building the SGL and the device PTEs with something else doing
'move', but is that a workload that needs such agressive optimization?

> This is also why the precise semantics of move_notify for gpu<->gpu
> sharing took forever to discuss and are still a bit wip, because you
> have the inverse problem: The dma api mapping might still be there

Seems like this all makes a graph of operations, can't start the next
one until all deps are finished. Actually sounds a lot like futures.

Would be clearer if this attach API provided some indication that the
SGL is actually a future valid SGL..

Jason
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  reply	other threads:[~2020-10-07  7:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-04 19:12 [RFC PATCH v3 0/4] RDMA: Add dma-buf support Jianxin Xiong
2020-10-04 19:12 ` [RFC PATCH v3 1/4] RDMA/umem: Support importing dma-buf as user memory region Jianxin Xiong
2020-10-05 10:54   ` Christian König
2020-10-05 16:19     ` Xiong, Jianxin
2020-10-05 13:13   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-05 16:18     ` Xiong, Jianxin
2020-10-05 16:33       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-05 19:41         ` Xiong, Jianxin
2020-10-06  9:22       ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-06 15:26         ` Xiong, Jianxin
2020-10-06 15:49         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-06 16:34           ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-06 17:24             ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-06 18:02               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-06 18:17                 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-06 18:38                   ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2020-10-06 19:12                     ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-07  7:13                       ` Christian König
2020-10-06 16:40       ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-04 19:12 ` [RFC PATCH v3 2/4] RDMA: Expand driver memory registration methods to support dma-buf Jianxin Xiong
2020-10-04 19:12 ` [RFC PATCH v3 3/4] RDMA/mlx5: Support dma-buf based userspace memory region Jianxin Xiong
2020-10-04 19:12 ` [RFC PATCH v3 4/4] RDMA/uverbs: Add uverbs command for dma-buf based MR registration Jianxin Xiong

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