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From: Pekka Paalanen <ppaalanen@gmail.com>
To: Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>
Cc: Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>,
	David Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>,
	mombasawalam@vmware.com, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	Gurchetan Singh <gurchetansingh@chromium.org>,
	krastevm@vmware.com, Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
	wayland-devel <wayland-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/6] drm: Add mouse cursor hotspot support to atomic KMS
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2022 11:56:26 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220610115626.5a8a78ac@eldfell> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YqMDoSMOL2rsfJj/@phenom.ffwll.local>

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On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 10:41:05 +0200
Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch> wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> Kinda top post because the thread is sprawling and I think we need a
> summary/restart. I think there's at least 3 issues here:
> 
> - lack of hotspot property support, which means compositors can't really
>   support hotspot with atomic. Which isn't entirely true, because you
>   totally can use atomic for the primary planes/crtcs and the legacy
>   cursor ioctls, but I understand that people might find that a bit silly :-)
> 
>   Anyway this problme is solved by the patch set here, and I think results
>   in some nice cleanups to boot.
> 
> - the fact that cursors for virtual drivers are not planes, but really
>   special things. Which just breaks the universal plane kms uapi. That
>   part isn't solved, and I do agree with Simon and Pekka that we really
>   should solve this before we unleash even more compositors onto the
>   atomic paths of virtual drivers.
> 
>   I think the simplest solution for this is:
>   1. add a new DRM_PLANE_TYPE_VIRTUAL_CURSOR, and set that for these
>   special cursor planes on all virtual drivers
>   2. add the new "I understand virtual cursors planes" setparam, filter
>   virtual cursor planes for userspace which doesn't set this (like we do
>   right now if userspace doesn't set the universal plane mode)
>   3. backport the above patches to all stable kernels
>   4. make sure the hotspot property is only set on VIRTUAL_CURSOR planes
>   and nothing else in the rebased patch series
> 
> - third issue: These special virtual display properties arent documented.
>   Aside from hotspot there's also suggested X/Y and maybe other stuff. I
>   have no idea what suggested X/Y does and what userspace should do with
>   it. I think we need a new section for virtualized drivers which:
>   - documents all the properties involved
>   - documents the new cap for enabling virtual cursor planes
>   - documents some of the key flows that compositors should implement for
>     best experience
>   - documents how exactly the user experience will degrade if compositors
>     pretend it's just a normal kms driver (maybe put that into each of the
>     special flows that a compositor ideally supports)
>   - whatever other comments and gaps I've missed, I'm sure
>     Simon/Pekka/others will chime in once the patch exists.
> 
> There's a bit of fixing oopsies (virtualized drivers really shouldn't have
> enabled universal planes for their cursors) and debt (all these properties
> predate the push to document stuff so we need to fix that), but I don't
> think it's too much. And I think, from reading the threads, that this
> should cover everything?
> 
> Anything I've missed? Or got completely wrong?

Hi,

sounds like a good plan to me.


Thanks,
pq

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  reply	other threads:[~2022-06-10  8:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-02 15:42 [PATCH 0/6] drm: Add mouse cursor hotspot support to atomic KMS Zack Rusin
2022-06-02 15:42 ` [PATCH 1/6] drm/atomic: Add support for mouse hotspots Zack Rusin
2022-06-02 15:42 ` [PATCH 2/6] drm/vmwgfx: Create mouse hotspot properties on cursor planes Zack Rusin
2022-06-03 13:11   ` Martin Krastev (VMware)
2022-06-02 15:42 ` [PATCH 3/6] drm/qxl: " Zack Rusin
2022-06-02 22:05   ` kernel test robot
2022-06-02 23:26   ` kernel test robot
2022-06-02 15:42 ` [PATCH 4/6] drm/vboxvideo: " Zack Rusin
2022-06-02 15:42 ` [PATCH 5/6] drm/virtio: " Zack Rusin
2022-06-02 15:42 ` [PATCH 6/6] drm: Remove legacy cursor hotspot code Zack Rusin
2022-06-03 10:28 ` [PATCH 0/6] drm: Add mouse cursor hotspot support to atomic KMS Gerd Hoffmann
2022-06-03 14:43   ` Zack Rusin
2022-06-03 14:14 ` Simon Ser
2022-06-03 14:27   ` Zack Rusin
2022-06-03 14:32     ` Simon Ser
2022-06-03 14:38       ` Zack Rusin
2022-06-03 14:56         ` Simon Ser
2022-06-03 15:17           ` Zack Rusin
2022-06-03 15:22             ` Simon Ser
2022-06-03 15:32               ` Zack Rusin
2022-06-03 15:49                 ` Simon Ser
2022-06-03 18:31                   ` Zack Rusin
2022-06-05  7:30                     ` Simon Ser
2022-06-05 15:47                       ` Zack Rusin
2022-06-05 16:26                         ` Simon Ser
2022-06-05 18:16                           ` Zack Rusin
2022-06-06  8:11                             ` Simon Ser
2022-06-04 21:19               ` Hans de Goede
2022-06-05  7:34                 ` Simon Ser
2022-06-07 11:25             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2022-06-06  9:13         ` Pekka Paalanen
2022-06-07  8:07   ` Pekka Paalanen
2022-06-07 14:30     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2022-06-08  7:53       ` Pekka Paalanen
2022-06-08 14:52         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2022-06-07 17:50     ` Zack Rusin
2022-06-08  7:53       ` Pekka Paalanen
2022-06-09 19:39         ` Zack Rusin
2022-06-10  7:49           ` Pekka Paalanen
2022-06-10  8:22             ` Jonas Ådahl
2022-06-10  8:54           ` Simon Ser
2022-06-10  9:01             ` Daniel Vetter
2022-06-10  8:41   ` Daniel Vetter
2022-06-10  8:56     ` Pekka Paalanen [this message]
2022-06-10  8:59     ` Daniel Vetter
2022-06-10 12:03       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2022-06-10 14:24       ` Zack Rusin
2022-06-13  7:33         ` Pekka Paalanen
2022-06-13 13:14           ` Zack Rusin
2022-06-13 14:25             ` Pekka Paalanen
2022-06-13 14:54               ` Zack Rusin
2022-06-14  7:36                 ` Pekka Paalanen
2022-06-14 14:40                   ` Zack Rusin
2022-06-14 14:54                     ` Daniel Stone
2023-06-09 15:20       ` Albert Esteve
2023-06-21  7:10         ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2023-06-22  4:29           ` Zack Rusin
2023-06-22  6:20             ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-06-10  9:15     ` Simon Ser
2022-06-10  9:49       ` Daniel Vetter
2022-06-10 12:36         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2022-06-10 12:53           ` Simon Ser
2022-06-11 15:34             ` Hans de Goede
2022-06-13  7:45               ` Pekka Paalanen

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