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From: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>
To: Zack Rusin <zackr@vmware.com>
Cc: DRI Development <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	Huang Rui <ray.huang@amd.com>, David Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>,
	Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] drm/ttm: Don't delete the system manager before the delayed delete
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2021 16:49:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <26b9009d-b3b3-73cc-435c-420e42085c14@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d78057b6-d577-d908-8b87-baf980bd86fd@vmware.com>

Am 23.09.21 um 15:53 schrieb Zack Rusin:
> On 9/20/21 10:59 AM, Zack Rusin wrote:
>>> On Sep 20, 2021, at 02:30, Christian König 
>>> <christian.koenig@amd.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Am 17.09.21 um 19:53 schrieb Zack Rusin:
>>>> On some hardware, in particular in virtualized environments, the
>>>> system memory can be shared with the "hardware". In those cases
>>>> the BO's allocated through the ttm system manager might be
>>>> busy during ttm_bo_put which results in them being scheduled
>>>> for a delayed deletion.
>>>
>>> While the patch itself is probably fine the reasoning here is a 
>>> clear NAK.
>>>
>>> Buffers in the system domain are not GPU accessible by definition, 
>>> even in a shared environment and so *must* be idle.
>>
>> I’m assuming that means they are not allowed to be ever fenced then, 
>> yes?
>
> Any thoughts on this? I'd love a confirmation because it would mean I 
> need to go and rewrite the vmwgfx_mob.c bits where we use 
> TTM_PL_SYSTEM memory (through vmw_bo_create_and_populate) for a page 
> table which is read by the host, and those bo's need to be fenced to 
> prevent destruction of the page tables while the memory they point to 
> is still used. So if those were never allowed to be fenced in the 
> first place we probably need to add a new memory type to hold those 
> page tables.

Yeah, as far as I can see that is pretty much illegal from a design 
point of view.

We could probably change that rule on the TTM side, but I think that 
keeping the design as it is and adding a placement in vmwgfx sounds like 
the cleaner approach.

Christian.

>
> z


      reply	other threads:[~2021-09-23 14:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-17 17:53 [PATCH] drm/ttm: Don't delete the system manager before the delayed delete Zack Rusin
2021-09-17 18:34 ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-09-20  6:30 ` Christian König
2021-09-20 14:59   ` Zack Rusin
2021-09-23 13:53     ` Zack Rusin
2021-09-23 14:49       ` Christian König [this message]

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