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From: Mikko Perttunen <cyndis@kapsi.fi>
To: Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@gmail.com>,
	Mikko Perttunen <mperttunen@nvidia.com>
Cc: airlied@linux.ie, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	jonathanh@nvidia.com, talho@nvidia.com, bhuntsman@nvidia.com,
	linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org, digetx@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 07/21] gpu: host1x: Introduce UAPI header
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2021 13:12:36 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <47840607-8e7c-cc02-bf9b-e001c91f7354@kapsi.fi> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YFnIef+dDuqLv5Ek@orome.fritz.box>

On 3/23/21 12:52 PM, Thierry Reding wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 03:00:05PM +0200, Mikko Perttunen wrote:
>> Add the userspace interface header, specifying interfaces
>> for allocating and accessing syncpoints from userspace,
>> and for creating sync_file based fences based on syncpoint
>> thresholds.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Mikko Perttunen <mperttunen@nvidia.com>
>> ---
>>   include/uapi/linux/host1x.h | 134 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>   1 file changed, 134 insertions(+)
>>   create mode 100644 include/uapi/linux/host1x.h
> 
> What's the number of these syncpoints that we expect userspace to
> create? There's a limited amount of open file descriptors available by
> default, so this needs to be kept reasonably low.
> 
>> diff --git a/include/uapi/linux/host1x.h b/include/uapi/linux/host1x.h
>> new file mode 100644
>> index 000000000000..9c8fb9425cb2
>> --- /dev/null
>> +++ b/include/uapi/linux/host1x.h
>> @@ -0,0 +1,134 @@
>> +/* SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0 WITH Linux-syscall-note */
>> +/* Copyright (c) 2020 NVIDIA Corporation */
>> +
>> +#ifndef _UAPI__LINUX_HOST1X_H
>> +#define _UAPI__LINUX_HOST1X_H
>> +
>> +#include <linux/ioctl.h>
>> +#include <linux/types.h>
>> +
>> +#if defined(__cplusplus)
>> +extern "C" {
>> +#endif
>> +
>> +struct host1x_allocate_syncpoint {
>> +	/**
>> +	 * @fd: [out]
>> +	 *
>> +	 * New file descriptor representing the allocated syncpoint.
>> +	 */
>> +	__s32 fd;
>> +
>> +	__u32 reserved[3];
>> +};
>> +
>> +struct host1x_syncpoint_info {
>> +	/**
>> +	 * @id: [out]
>> +	 *
>> +	 * System-global ID of the syncpoint.
>> +	 */
>> +	__u32 id;
>> +
>> +	__u32 reserved[3];
>> +};
> 
> Given that this has only out parameters, I expect this will be called on
> the FD returned by HOST1X_IOCTL_ALLOCATE_SYNCPOINT? It might be worth
> pointing that out explicitly in a comment.
> 

Correct.

>> +
>> +struct host1x_syncpoint_increment {
>> +	/**
>> +	 * @count: [in]
>> +	 *
>> +	 * Number of times to increment the syncpoint. The syncpoint can
>> +	 * be observed at in-between values, but each increment is atomic.
>> +	 */
>> +	__u32 count;
>> +};
> 
> This seems like it would have to be called on the FD as well...

Yep.

> 
>> +
>> +struct host1x_read_syncpoint {
>> +	/**
>> +	 * @id: [in]
>> +	 *
>> +	 * ID of the syncpoint to read.
>> +	 */
>> +	__u32 id;
>> +
>> +	/**
>> +	 * @value: [out]
>> +	 *
>> +	 * Current value of the syncpoint.
>> +	 */
>> +	__u32 value;
>> +};
> 
> ... but then, all of a sudden you seem to switch things around and allow
> reading the value of an arbitrary syncpoint specified by ID.
> 
> Now, I suspect that's because reading the syncpoint is harmless and does
> not allow abuse, whereas incrementing could be abused if allowed on an
> arbitrary syncpoint ID. But I think it's worth spelling all that out in
> some documentation to make this clear from a security point of view and
> from a usability point of view for people trying to figure out how to
> use these interfaces.

Yeah. The model is that reading any syncpoint is OK but writing is not. 
I think these things were mentioned in the original proposal text but I 
did not carry them over to the comments. Will fix (however see below)

> 
>> +
>> +struct host1x_create_fence {
>> +	/**
>> +	 * @id: [in]
>> +	 *
>> +	 * ID of the syncpoint to create a fence for.
>> +	 */
>> +	__u32 id;
>> +
>> +	/**
>> +	 * @threshold: [in]
>> +	 *
>> +	 * When the syncpoint reaches this value, the fence will be signaled.
>> +	 * The syncpoint is considered to have reached the threshold when the
>> +	 * following condition is true:
>> +	 *
>> +	 * 	((value - threshold) & 0x80000000U) == 0U
>> +	 *
>> +	 */
>> +	__u32 threshold;
>> +
>> +	/**
>> +	 * @fence_fd: [out]
>> +	 *
>> +	 * New sync_file file descriptor containing the created fence.
>> +	 */
>> +	__s32 fence_fd;
>> +
>> +	__u32 reserved[1];
>> +};
> 
> Again this takes an arbitrary syncpoint ID as input, so I expect that
> the corresponding IOCTL will have to be called on the host1x device
> node? Again, I think it would be good to either point that out for each
> structure or IOCTL, or alternatively maybe reorder these such that this
> becomes clearer.
> 
>> +
>> +struct host1x_fence_extract_fence {
>> +	__u32 id;
>> +	__u32 threshold;
>> +};
>> +
>> +struct host1x_fence_extract {
>> +	/**
>> +	 * @fence_fd: [in]
>> +	 *
>> +	 * sync_file file descriptor
>> +	 */
>> +	__s32 fence_fd;
>> +
>> +	/**
>> +	 * @num_fences: [in,out]
>> +	 *
>> +	 * In: size of the `fences_ptr` array counted in elements.
>> +	 * Out: required size of the `fences_ptr` array counted in elements.
>> +	 */
>> +	__u32 num_fences;
>> +
>> +	/**
>> +	 * @fences_ptr: [in]
>> +	 *
>> +	 * Pointer to array of `struct host1x_fence_extract_fence`.
>> +	 */
>> +	__u64 fences_ptr;
>> +
>> +	__u32 reserved[2];
>> +};
> 
> For the others it's pretty clear to me what the purpose is, but I'm at a
> complete loss with this one. What's the use-case for this?

This is needed to process incoming prefences for userspace-programmed 
engines -- mainly, the GPU with usermode submit enabled.

To align with other upstream code, I've been thinking of removing this 
whole UAPI; moving the syncpoint allocation part to the DRM UAPI, and 
dropping the sync_file stuff altogether (if we have support for job 
submission outputting syncobjs, those could still be converted into 
sync_files). This doesn't support usecases like GPU usermode submit, so 
for downstream we'll have to add it back in, though. Would like to hear 
your opinion on it as well.

Mikko

> 
> In general I think it'd make sense to add a bit more documentation about
> how all these IOCTLs are meant to be used to give people a better
> understanding of why these are needed.
> 
> Thierry
> 
>> +
>> +#define HOST1X_IOCTL_ALLOCATE_SYNCPOINT  _IOWR('X', 0x00, struct host1x_allocate_syncpoint)
>> +#define HOST1X_IOCTL_READ_SYNCPOINT      _IOR ('X', 0x01, struct host1x_read_syncpoint)
>> +#define HOST1X_IOCTL_CREATE_FENCE        _IOWR('X', 0x02, struct host1x_create_fence)
>> +#define HOST1X_IOCTL_SYNCPOINT_INFO      _IOWR('X', 0x03, struct host1x_syncpoint_info)
>> +#define HOST1X_IOCTL_SYNCPOINT_INCREMENT _IOWR('X', 0x04, struct host1x_syncpoint_increment)
>> +#define HOST1X_IOCTL_FENCE_EXTRACT       _IOWR('X', 0x05, struct host1x_fence_extract)
>> +
>> +#if defined(__cplusplus)
>> +}
>> +#endif
>> +
>> +#endif
>> -- 
>> 2.30.0
>>
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  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-23 11:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-11 12:59 [PATCH v5 00/21] Host1x/TegraDRM UAPI Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 12:59 ` [PATCH v5 01/21] gpu: host1x: Use different lock classes for each client Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-22 14:46   ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-22 14:48     ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-03-22 15:19       ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-22 16:01         ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-03-23 10:20           ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-23 13:25             ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-03-26 14:54         ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-26 18:31           ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-03-26 19:10             ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-26 22:47               ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-01-11 13:00 ` [PATCH v5 02/21] gpu: host1x: Allow syncpoints without associated client Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-23 10:10   ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-23 10:32     ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 13:00 ` [PATCH v5 03/21] gpu: host1x: Show number of pending waiters in debugfs Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-23 10:16   ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-26 14:34     ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-04-01 21:19       ` Michał Mirosław
2021-04-02 16:02         ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-04-08  4:13           ` Michał Mirosław
2021-04-08  4:25             ` Michał Mirosław
2021-04-08 11:58               ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 13:00 ` [PATCH v5 04/21] gpu: host1x: Remove cancelled waiters immediately Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-12 22:07   ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-01-12 22:20     ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-13 16:29       ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-01-13 18:16         ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-23 10:23       ` Thierry Reding
2021-01-11 13:00 ` [PATCH v5 05/21] gpu: host1x: Use HW-equivalent syncpoint expiration check Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-23 10:26   ` Thierry Reding
2021-01-11 13:00 ` [PATCH v5 06/21] gpu: host1x: Cleanup and refcounting for syncpoints Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-23 10:36   ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-23 10:44     ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-23 11:21       ` Thierry Reding
2021-01-11 13:00 ` [PATCH v5 07/21] gpu: host1x: Introduce UAPI header Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-23 10:52   ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-23 11:12     ` Mikko Perttunen [this message]
2021-03-23 11:43       ` Thierry Reding
2021-01-11 13:00 ` [PATCH v5 08/21] gpu: host1x: Implement /dev/host1x device node Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-23 11:02   ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-23 11:15     ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 13:00 ` [PATCH v5 09/21] gpu: host1x: DMA fences and userspace fence creation Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-23 11:15   ` Thierry Reding
2021-01-11 13:00 ` [PATCH v5 10/21] gpu: host1x: Add no-recovery mode Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 13:00 ` [PATCH v5 11/21] gpu: host1x: Add job release callback Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-23 11:55   ` Thierry Reding
2021-01-11 13:00 ` [PATCH v5 12/21] gpu: host1x: Add support for syncpoint waits in CDMA pushbuffer Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 13:00 ` [PATCH v5 13/21] gpu: host1x: Reset max value when freeing a syncpoint Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 13:00 ` [PATCH v5 14/21] gpu: host1x: Reserve VBLANK syncpoints at initialization Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 13:00 ` [PATCH v5 15/21] drm/tegra: Add new UAPI to header Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-13 18:14   ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-01-13 18:56     ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-14  8:36       ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-01-14 10:34         ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-23 12:30           ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-23 14:00             ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-03-23 16:44               ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-23 17:32                 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-03-23 17:57                   ` Thierry Reding
2021-01-11 13:00 ` [PATCH v5 16/21] drm/tegra: Boot VIC during runtime PM resume Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 13:00 ` [PATCH v5 17/21] drm/tegra: Set resv fields when importing/exporting GEMs Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 13:00 ` [PATCH v5 18/21] drm/tegra: Allocate per-engine channel in core code Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-23 12:35   ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-23 13:15     ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 13:00 ` [PATCH v5 19/21] drm/tegra: Implement new UAPI Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 17:37   ` kernel test robot
2021-01-12 22:27   ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-03-23 13:25   ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-23 14:43     ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-23 15:00       ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-03-23 16:59         ` Thierry Reding
2021-01-11 13:00 ` [PATCH v5 20/21] drm/tegra: Implement job submission part of " Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-23 13:38   ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-23 14:16     ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-23 17:04       ` Thierry Reding
2021-01-11 13:00 ` [PATCH v5 21/21] drm/tegra: Add job firewall Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-19 22:29 ` [PATCH v5 00/21] Host1x/TegraDRM UAPI Dmitry Osipenko
2021-01-26  2:45   ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-27 21:20     ` [PATCH v5 00/21] Host1x sync point UAPI should not be used for tracking DRM jobs Dmitry Osipenko
2021-01-28 11:08       ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-28 16:58         ` Thierry Reding
2021-01-29 17:30           ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-02-03 11:18             ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-02-27 11:19               ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-03-01  8:19                 ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-23 18:21                 ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-23 19:57                   ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-03-23 20:13                     ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-01-27 21:26     ` [PATCH v5 00/21] Host1x/TegraDRM UAPI Dmitry Osipenko
2021-01-27 21:57       ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-27 22:06         ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-01-28 11:46           ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-27 21:35     ` [PATCH v5 00/21] sync_file API is not very suitable for DRM Dmitry Osipenko
2021-01-27 21:53       ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-27 22:26         ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-01-27 21:52     ` [PATCH v5 00/21] support option where all commands are collected into a single,dedicated cmdstream Dmitry Osipenko

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