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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
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Subject: Re: [patch RFC 00/15] mm/highmem: Provide a preemptible variant of kmap_atomic & friends
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2020 19:40:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87eemwcpnq.fsf@nanos.tec.linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wgbmwsTOKs23Z=71EBTrULoeaH2U3TNqT2atHEWvkBKdw@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Sep 20 2020 at 09:57, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 1:49 AM Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de> wrote:
> Btw, looking at the stack code, Ithink your new implementation of it
> is a bit scary:
>
>    static inline int kmap_atomic_idx_push(void)
>    {
>   -       int idx = __this_cpu_inc_return(__kmap_atomic_idx) - 1;
>   +       int idx = current->kmap_ctrl.idx++;
>
> and now that 'current->kmap_ctrl.idx' is not atomic wrt
>
>  (a) NMI's (this may be ok, maybe we never do kmaps in NMIs, and with
> nesting I think it's fine anyway - the NMI will undo whatever it did)

Right. Nesting should be a non issue, but I don't think we have
kmap_atomic() in NMI context.

>  (b) the prev/next switch
>
> And that (b) part worries me. You do the kmap_switch_temporary() to
> switch the entries, but you do that *separately* from actually
> switching 'current' to the new value.
>
> So kmap_switch_temporary() looks safe, but I don't think it actually
> is. Because while it first unmaps the old entries and then remaps the
> new ones, an interrupt can come in, and at that point it matters what
> is *CURRENT*.
>
> And regardless of whether 'current' is 'prev' or 'next', that
> kmap_switch_temporary() loop may be doing the wrong thing, depending
> on which one had the deeper stack. The interrupt will be using
> whatever "current->kmap_ctrl.idx" is, but that might overwrite entries
> that are in the process of being restored (if current is still 'prev',
> but kmap_switch_temporary() is in the "restore @next's kmaps" pgase),
> or it might stomp on entries that have been pte_clear()'ed by the
> 'prev' thing.

Duh yes. Never thought about that.

> Alternatively, that process counter would need about a hundred lines
> of commentary about exactly why it's safe. Because I don't think it
> is.

I think the more obvious solution is to split the whole exercise:


  schedule()
     prepare_switch()
        unmap()

    switch_to()

    finish_switch()
        map()

That's safe because neither the unmap() nor the map() code changes
kmap_ctrl.idx. So if there is an interrupt coming in between unmap() and
switch_to() then a kmap_local() there will use the next entry. So we
could even do the unmap() with interrupts enabled (preemption disabled).
Same for the map() part.

To explain that we need only a few lines of commentry methinks.

Thanks,

        tglx

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  reply	other threads:[~2020-09-21  7:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-19  9:17 [patch RFC 00/15] mm/highmem: Provide a preemptible variant of kmap_atomic & friends Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-19  9:17 ` [patch RFC 01/15] mm/highmem: Un-EXPORT __kmap_atomic_idx() Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-19  9:17 ` [patch RFC 02/15] highmem: Provide generic variant of kmap_atomic* Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-19  9:17 ` [patch RFC 03/15] x86/mm/highmem: Use generic kmap atomic implementation Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-19  9:17 ` [patch RFC 04/15] arc/mm/highmem: " Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-19  9:17 ` [patch RFC 05/15] ARM: highmem: Switch to generic kmap atomic Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-19  9:17 ` [patch RFC 06/15] csky/mm/highmem: " Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-23  0:05   ` Guo Ren
2020-09-19  9:17 ` [patch RFC 07/15] microblaze/mm/highmem: " Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-19  9:17 ` [patch RFC 08/15] mips/mm/highmem: " Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-19  9:18 ` [patch RFC 09/15] nds32/mm/highmem: " Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-19  9:18 ` [patch RFC 10/15] powerpc/mm/highmem: " Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-19  9:18 ` [patch RFC 11/15] sparc/mm/highmem: " Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-19  9:18 ` [patch RFC 12/15] xtensa/mm/highmem: " Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-19  9:18 ` [patch RFC 13/15] mm/highmem: Remove the old kmap_atomic cruft Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-19  9:18 ` [patch RFC 14/15] sched: highmem: Store temporary kmaps in task struct Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-19  9:18 ` [patch RFC 15/15] mm/highmem: Provide kmap_temporary* Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-19 10:35 ` [patch RFC 00/15] mm/highmem: Provide a preemptible variant of kmap_atomic & friends Daniel Vetter
2020-09-19 10:37   ` Daniel Vetter
2020-09-20  6:23     ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-20  8:23       ` Daniel Vetter
2020-09-20 17:24         ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-19 17:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-19 17:39   ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-09-19 19:13     ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-21 19:58     ` Ira Weiny
2020-09-20  6:41   ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-20  8:49     ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-20 16:57       ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-20 17:40         ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2020-09-20 17:42           ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-20 17:58             ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-21  7:39             ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-21 16:24               ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-21 19:27                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-23  8:40                   ` peterz
2020-09-23 13:35                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-23 15:52                     ` Steven Rostedt
2020-09-23 20:55                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-23 21:12                         ` Steven Rostedt
2020-09-24  6:57                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-24 12:32                             ` Steven Rostedt
2020-09-24 12:42                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-09-24 13:51                                 ` Steven Rostedt
2020-09-24 13:58                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-09-24 17:55                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-24 18:58                                 ` Steven Rostedt
2020-09-24  8:27                       ` peterz
2020-09-24 19:36                         ` Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2020-09-23 10:19                   ` peterz
2020-09-23 12:33                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-23 14:33                   ` Thomas Gleixner

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