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* Re: [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 1/1] Let userspace know if they can trust timeslicing by including it as part of the I915_PARAM_HAS_SCHEDULER::I915_SCHEDULER_CAP_TIMESLICING
       [not found] ` <20210525135508.244659-2-tejaskumarx.surendrakumar.upadhyay@intel.com>
@ 2021-05-25 14:19   ` Tvrtko Ursulin
  2021-05-25 14:47     ` Daniel Vetter
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Tvrtko Ursulin @ 2021-05-25 14:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Tejas Upadhyay, intel-gfx, mahesh.meena, DRI Development


+ dri-devel as per process

On 25/05/2021 14:55, Tejas Upadhyay wrote:
> v2: Only declare timeslicing if we can safely preempt userspace.

Commit message got butchered up somehow so you'll need to fix that at 
some point.

Regards,

Tvrtko

> Fixes: 8ee36e048c98 ("drm/i915/execlists: Minimalistic timeslicing")
> Signed-off-by: Chris Wilson <chris@chris-wilson.co.uk>
> Cc: Tvrtko Ursulin <tvrtko.ursulin@intel.com>
> Reviewed-by: Tvrtko Ursulin <tvrtko.ursulin@intel.com>
> ---
>   drivers/gpu/drm/i915/gt/intel_engine_user.c | 1 +
>   include/uapi/drm/i915_drm.h                 | 1 +
>   2 files changed, 2 insertions(+)
> 
> diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/gt/intel_engine_user.c b/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/gt/intel_engine_user.c
> index 3cca7ea2d6ea..12d165566ed2 100644
> --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/gt/intel_engine_user.c
> +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/gt/intel_engine_user.c
> @@ -98,6 +98,7 @@ static void set_scheduler_caps(struct drm_i915_private *i915)
>   		MAP(HAS_PREEMPTION, PREEMPTION),
>   		MAP(HAS_SEMAPHORES, SEMAPHORES),
>   		MAP(SUPPORTS_STATS, ENGINE_BUSY_STATS),
> +		MAP(TIMESLICE_BIT, TIMESLICING),
>   #undef MAP
>   	};
>   	struct intel_engine_cs *engine;
> diff --git a/include/uapi/drm/i915_drm.h b/include/uapi/drm/i915_drm.h
> index c2c7759b7d2e..af2212d6113c 100644
> --- a/include/uapi/drm/i915_drm.h
> +++ b/include/uapi/drm/i915_drm.h
> @@ -572,6 +572,7 @@ typedef struct drm_i915_irq_wait {
>   #define   I915_SCHEDULER_CAP_PREEMPTION	(1ul << 2)
>   #define   I915_SCHEDULER_CAP_SEMAPHORES	(1ul << 3)
>   #define   I915_SCHEDULER_CAP_ENGINE_BUSY_STATS	(1ul << 4)
> +#define   I915_SCHEDULER_CAP_TIMESLICING	(1ul << 5)
>   
>   #define I915_PARAM_HUC_STATUS		 42
>   
> 

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* Re: [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 1/1] Let userspace know if they can trust timeslicing by including it as part of the I915_PARAM_HAS_SCHEDULER::I915_SCHEDULER_CAP_TIMESLICING
  2021-05-25 14:19   ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 1/1] Let userspace know if they can trust timeslicing by including it as part of the I915_PARAM_HAS_SCHEDULER::I915_SCHEDULER_CAP_TIMESLICING Tvrtko Ursulin
@ 2021-05-25 14:47     ` Daniel Vetter
  2021-05-26 10:20       ` Tvrtko Ursulin
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Vetter @ 2021-05-25 14:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Tvrtko Ursulin; +Cc: intel-gfx, Tejas Upadhyay, DRI Development, mahesh.meena

On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 03:19:47PM +0100, Tvrtko Ursulin wrote:
> 
> + dri-devel as per process
> 
> On 25/05/2021 14:55, Tejas Upadhyay wrote:
> > v2: Only declare timeslicing if we can safely preempt userspace.
> 
> Commit message got butchered up somehow so you'll need to fix that at some
> point.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Tvrtko
> 
> > Fixes: 8ee36e048c98 ("drm/i915/execlists: Minimalistic timeslicing")
> > Signed-off-by: Chris Wilson <chris@chris-wilson.co.uk>
> > Cc: Tvrtko Ursulin <tvrtko.ursulin@intel.com>
> > Reviewed-by: Tvrtko Ursulin <tvrtko.ursulin@intel.com>
> > ---
> >   drivers/gpu/drm/i915/gt/intel_engine_user.c | 1 +
> >   include/uapi/drm/i915_drm.h                 | 1 +
> >   2 files changed, 2 insertions(+)
> > 
> > diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/gt/intel_engine_user.c b/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/gt/intel_engine_user.c
> > index 3cca7ea2d6ea..12d165566ed2 100644
> > --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/gt/intel_engine_user.c
> > +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/gt/intel_engine_user.c
> > @@ -98,6 +98,7 @@ static void set_scheduler_caps(struct drm_i915_private *i915)
> >   		MAP(HAS_PREEMPTION, PREEMPTION),
> >   		MAP(HAS_SEMAPHORES, SEMAPHORES),
> >   		MAP(SUPPORTS_STATS, ENGINE_BUSY_STATS),
> > +		MAP(TIMESLICE_BIT, TIMESLICING),
> >   #undef MAP
> >   	};
> >   	struct intel_engine_cs *engine;
> > diff --git a/include/uapi/drm/i915_drm.h b/include/uapi/drm/i915_drm.h
> > index c2c7759b7d2e..af2212d6113c 100644
> > --- a/include/uapi/drm/i915_drm.h
> > +++ b/include/uapi/drm/i915_drm.h
> > @@ -572,6 +572,7 @@ typedef struct drm_i915_irq_wait {
> >   #define   I915_SCHEDULER_CAP_PREEMPTION	(1ul << 2)
> >   #define   I915_SCHEDULER_CAP_SEMAPHORES	(1ul << 3)
> >   #define   I915_SCHEDULER_CAP_ENGINE_BUSY_STATS	(1ul << 4)
> > +#define   I915_SCHEDULER_CAP_TIMESLICING	(1ul << 5)

Since this is uapi I think we should at least have some nice kerneldoc
that explains what exactly this is, what for (link to userspace) and all
that. Ideally also minimally filing in the gaps in our uapi docs for stuff
this references.
-Daniel

> >   #define I915_PARAM_HUC_STATUS		 42
> > 
> _______________________________________________
> Intel-gfx mailing list
> Intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org
> https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/intel-gfx

-- 
Daniel Vetter
Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
http://blog.ffwll.ch

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* Re: [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 1/1] Let userspace know if they can trust timeslicing by including it as part of the I915_PARAM_HAS_SCHEDULER::I915_SCHEDULER_CAP_TIMESLICING
  2021-05-25 14:47     ` Daniel Vetter
@ 2021-05-26 10:20       ` Tvrtko Ursulin
  2021-05-27 10:13         ` Daniel Vetter
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Tvrtko Ursulin @ 2021-05-26 10:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Daniel Vetter; +Cc: intel-gfx, Tejas Upadhyay, DRI Development, mahesh.meena


On 25/05/2021 15:47, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 03:19:47PM +0100, Tvrtko Ursulin wrote:
>>
>> + dri-devel as per process
>>
>> On 25/05/2021 14:55, Tejas Upadhyay wrote:
>>> v2: Only declare timeslicing if we can safely preempt userspace.
>>
>> Commit message got butchered up somehow so you'll need to fix that at some
>> point.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Tvrtko
>>
>>> Fixes: 8ee36e048c98 ("drm/i915/execlists: Minimalistic timeslicing")
>>> Signed-off-by: Chris Wilson <chris@chris-wilson.co.uk>
>>> Cc: Tvrtko Ursulin <tvrtko.ursulin@intel.com>
>>> Reviewed-by: Tvrtko Ursulin <tvrtko.ursulin@intel.com>
>>> ---
>>>    drivers/gpu/drm/i915/gt/intel_engine_user.c | 1 +
>>>    include/uapi/drm/i915_drm.h                 | 1 +
>>>    2 files changed, 2 insertions(+)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/gt/intel_engine_user.c b/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/gt/intel_engine_user.c
>>> index 3cca7ea2d6ea..12d165566ed2 100644
>>> --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/gt/intel_engine_user.c
>>> +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/gt/intel_engine_user.c
>>> @@ -98,6 +98,7 @@ static void set_scheduler_caps(struct drm_i915_private *i915)
>>>    		MAP(HAS_PREEMPTION, PREEMPTION),
>>>    		MAP(HAS_SEMAPHORES, SEMAPHORES),
>>>    		MAP(SUPPORTS_STATS, ENGINE_BUSY_STATS),
>>> +		MAP(TIMESLICE_BIT, TIMESLICING),
>>>    #undef MAP
>>>    	};
>>>    	struct intel_engine_cs *engine;
>>> diff --git a/include/uapi/drm/i915_drm.h b/include/uapi/drm/i915_drm.h
>>> index c2c7759b7d2e..af2212d6113c 100644
>>> --- a/include/uapi/drm/i915_drm.h
>>> +++ b/include/uapi/drm/i915_drm.h
>>> @@ -572,6 +572,7 @@ typedef struct drm_i915_irq_wait {
>>>    #define   I915_SCHEDULER_CAP_PREEMPTION	(1ul << 2)
>>>    #define   I915_SCHEDULER_CAP_SEMAPHORES	(1ul << 3)
>>>    #define   I915_SCHEDULER_CAP_ENGINE_BUSY_STATS	(1ul << 4)
>>> +#define   I915_SCHEDULER_CAP_TIMESLICING	(1ul << 5)
> 
> Since this is uapi I think we should at least have some nice kerneldoc
> that explains what exactly this is, what for (link to userspace) and all
> that. Ideally also minimally filing in the gaps in our uapi docs for stuff
> this references.

IIUC there is no userspace apart from IGT needing it not to fail 
scheduling tests on ADL.

Current tests use "has preemption + has semaphores" as a proxy to answer 
the "does the kernel support timeslicing" question. This stops working 
with the Guc backend because GuC decided not to support semaphores (for 
reasons yet unknown, see other thread), so explicit "has timeslicing" 
flag is needed in order for tests to know that GuC is supposed to 
support timeslicing, even if it doesn't use semaphores for inter-ring 
synchronisation.

Regards,

Tvrtko

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* Re: [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 1/1] Let userspace know if they can trust timeslicing by including it as part of the I915_PARAM_HAS_SCHEDULER::I915_SCHEDULER_CAP_TIMESLICING
  2021-05-26 10:20       ` Tvrtko Ursulin
@ 2021-05-27 10:13         ` Daniel Vetter
  2021-05-27 10:22           ` Tvrtko Ursulin
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Vetter @ 2021-05-27 10:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Tvrtko Ursulin; +Cc: intel-gfx, Tejas Upadhyay, DRI Development, mahesh.meena

On Wed, May 26, 2021 at 11:20:13AM +0100, Tvrtko Ursulin wrote:
> 
> On 25/05/2021 15:47, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> > On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 03:19:47PM +0100, Tvrtko Ursulin wrote:
> > > 
> > > + dri-devel as per process
> > > 
> > > On 25/05/2021 14:55, Tejas Upadhyay wrote:
> > > > v2: Only declare timeslicing if we can safely preempt userspace.
> > > 
> > > Commit message got butchered up somehow so you'll need to fix that at some
> > > point.
> > > 
> > > Regards,
> > > 
> > > Tvrtko
> > > 
> > > > Fixes: 8ee36e048c98 ("drm/i915/execlists: Minimalistic timeslicing")
> > > > Signed-off-by: Chris Wilson <chris@chris-wilson.co.uk>
> > > > Cc: Tvrtko Ursulin <tvrtko.ursulin@intel.com>
> > > > Reviewed-by: Tvrtko Ursulin <tvrtko.ursulin@intel.com>
> > > > ---
> > > >    drivers/gpu/drm/i915/gt/intel_engine_user.c | 1 +
> > > >    include/uapi/drm/i915_drm.h                 | 1 +
> > > >    2 files changed, 2 insertions(+)
> > > > 
> > > > diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/gt/intel_engine_user.c b/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/gt/intel_engine_user.c
> > > > index 3cca7ea2d6ea..12d165566ed2 100644
> > > > --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/gt/intel_engine_user.c
> > > > +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/gt/intel_engine_user.c
> > > > @@ -98,6 +98,7 @@ static void set_scheduler_caps(struct drm_i915_private *i915)
> > > >    		MAP(HAS_PREEMPTION, PREEMPTION),
> > > >    		MAP(HAS_SEMAPHORES, SEMAPHORES),
> > > >    		MAP(SUPPORTS_STATS, ENGINE_BUSY_STATS),
> > > > +		MAP(TIMESLICE_BIT, TIMESLICING),
> > > >    #undef MAP
> > > >    	};
> > > >    	struct intel_engine_cs *engine;
> > > > diff --git a/include/uapi/drm/i915_drm.h b/include/uapi/drm/i915_drm.h
> > > > index c2c7759b7d2e..af2212d6113c 100644
> > > > --- a/include/uapi/drm/i915_drm.h
> > > > +++ b/include/uapi/drm/i915_drm.h
> > > > @@ -572,6 +572,7 @@ typedef struct drm_i915_irq_wait {
> > > >    #define   I915_SCHEDULER_CAP_PREEMPTION	(1ul << 2)
> > > >    #define   I915_SCHEDULER_CAP_SEMAPHORES	(1ul << 3)
> > > >    #define   I915_SCHEDULER_CAP_ENGINE_BUSY_STATS	(1ul << 4)
> > > > +#define   I915_SCHEDULER_CAP_TIMESLICING	(1ul << 5)
> > 
> > Since this is uapi I think we should at least have some nice kerneldoc
> > that explains what exactly this is, what for (link to userspace) and all
> > that. Ideally also minimally filing in the gaps in our uapi docs for stuff
> > this references.
> 
> IIUC there is no userspace apart from IGT needing it not to fail scheduling
> tests on ADL.
> 
> Current tests use "has preemption + has semaphores" as a proxy to answer the
> "does the kernel support timeslicing" question. This stops working with the
> Guc backend because GuC decided not to support semaphores (for reasons yet
> unknown, see other thread), so explicit "has timeslicing" flag is needed in
> order for tests to know that GuC is supposed to support timeslicing, even if
> it doesn't use semaphores for inter-ring synchronisation.

Since this if for igt only: Cant we do just extend the check in igt with
an || GEN >= 12? I really hope that our future hw will continue to support
timeslicing ...

Also if it's not there yet, a shared helper to check for that (like we're
adding for relocations and stuff like that right now).
-Daniel
-- 
Daniel Vetter
Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
http://blog.ffwll.ch

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* Re: [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 1/1] Let userspace know if they can trust timeslicing by including it as part of the I915_PARAM_HAS_SCHEDULER::I915_SCHEDULER_CAP_TIMESLICING
  2021-05-27 10:13         ` Daniel Vetter
@ 2021-05-27 10:22           ` Tvrtko Ursulin
  2021-05-27 10:27             ` Daniel Vetter
  2021-06-04 12:53             ` Tvrtko Ursulin
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Tvrtko Ursulin @ 2021-05-27 10:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Daniel Vetter; +Cc: intel-gfx, Tejas Upadhyay, DRI Development, mahesh.meena


On 27/05/2021 11:13, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> On Wed, May 26, 2021 at 11:20:13AM +0100, Tvrtko Ursulin wrote:
>>
>> On 25/05/2021 15:47, Daniel Vetter wrote:
>>> On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 03:19:47PM +0100, Tvrtko Ursulin wrote:
>>>>
>>>> + dri-devel as per process
>>>>
>>>> On 25/05/2021 14:55, Tejas Upadhyay wrote:
>>>>> v2: Only declare timeslicing if we can safely preempt userspace.
>>>>
>>>> Commit message got butchered up somehow so you'll need to fix that at some
>>>> point.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Tvrtko
>>>>
>>>>> Fixes: 8ee36e048c98 ("drm/i915/execlists: Minimalistic timeslicing")
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Chris Wilson <chris@chris-wilson.co.uk>
>>>>> Cc: Tvrtko Ursulin <tvrtko.ursulin@intel.com>
>>>>> Reviewed-by: Tvrtko Ursulin <tvrtko.ursulin@intel.com>
>>>>> ---
>>>>>     drivers/gpu/drm/i915/gt/intel_engine_user.c | 1 +
>>>>>     include/uapi/drm/i915_drm.h                 | 1 +
>>>>>     2 files changed, 2 insertions(+)
>>>>>
>>>>> diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/gt/intel_engine_user.c b/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/gt/intel_engine_user.c
>>>>> index 3cca7ea2d6ea..12d165566ed2 100644
>>>>> --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/gt/intel_engine_user.c
>>>>> +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/gt/intel_engine_user.c
>>>>> @@ -98,6 +98,7 @@ static void set_scheduler_caps(struct drm_i915_private *i915)
>>>>>     		MAP(HAS_PREEMPTION, PREEMPTION),
>>>>>     		MAP(HAS_SEMAPHORES, SEMAPHORES),
>>>>>     		MAP(SUPPORTS_STATS, ENGINE_BUSY_STATS),
>>>>> +		MAP(TIMESLICE_BIT, TIMESLICING),
>>>>>     #undef MAP
>>>>>     	};
>>>>>     	struct intel_engine_cs *engine;
>>>>> diff --git a/include/uapi/drm/i915_drm.h b/include/uapi/drm/i915_drm.h
>>>>> index c2c7759b7d2e..af2212d6113c 100644
>>>>> --- a/include/uapi/drm/i915_drm.h
>>>>> +++ b/include/uapi/drm/i915_drm.h
>>>>> @@ -572,6 +572,7 @@ typedef struct drm_i915_irq_wait {
>>>>>     #define   I915_SCHEDULER_CAP_PREEMPTION	(1ul << 2)
>>>>>     #define   I915_SCHEDULER_CAP_SEMAPHORES	(1ul << 3)
>>>>>     #define   I915_SCHEDULER_CAP_ENGINE_BUSY_STATS	(1ul << 4)
>>>>> +#define   I915_SCHEDULER_CAP_TIMESLICING	(1ul << 5)
>>>
>>> Since this is uapi I think we should at least have some nice kerneldoc
>>> that explains what exactly this is, what for (link to userspace) and all
>>> that. Ideally also minimally filing in the gaps in our uapi docs for stuff
>>> this references.
>>
>> IIUC there is no userspace apart from IGT needing it not to fail scheduling
>> tests on ADL.
>>
>> Current tests use "has preemption + has semaphores" as a proxy to answer the
>> "does the kernel support timeslicing" question. This stops working with the
>> Guc backend because GuC decided not to support semaphores (for reasons yet
>> unknown, see other thread), so explicit "has timeslicing" flag is needed in
>> order for tests to know that GuC is supposed to support timeslicing, even if
>> it doesn't use semaphores for inter-ring synchronisation.
> 
> Since this if for igt only: Cant we do just extend the check in igt with
> an || GEN >= 12? I really hope that our future hw will continue to support
> timeslicing ...

Not the gen 12 check, but possible I think. Explicit feature test would be better, but if definitely not allowed then along the lines of:

has_timeslicing =
	(has_preemption && has_semaphores) || uses_guc_submission;

Regards,

Tvrtko
  
> Also if it's not there yet, a shared helper to check for that (like we're
> adding for relocations and stuff like that right now).
> -Daniel
> 

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* Re: [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 1/1] Let userspace know if they can trust timeslicing by including it as part of the I915_PARAM_HAS_SCHEDULER::I915_SCHEDULER_CAP_TIMESLICING
  2021-05-27 10:22           ` Tvrtko Ursulin
@ 2021-05-27 10:27             ` Daniel Vetter
  2021-05-27 12:13               ` Tvrtko Ursulin
  2021-06-01 10:09               ` Tvrtko Ursulin
  2021-06-04 12:53             ` Tvrtko Ursulin
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Vetter @ 2021-05-27 10:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Tvrtko Ursulin; +Cc: intel-gfx, Tejas Upadhyay, DRI Development, mahesh.meena

On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 11:22:16AM +0100, Tvrtko Ursulin wrote:
> 
> On 27/05/2021 11:13, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> > On Wed, May 26, 2021 at 11:20:13AM +0100, Tvrtko Ursulin wrote:
> > > 
> > > On 25/05/2021 15:47, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> > > > On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 03:19:47PM +0100, Tvrtko Ursulin wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > + dri-devel as per process
> > > > > 
> > > > > On 25/05/2021 14:55, Tejas Upadhyay wrote:
> > > > > > v2: Only declare timeslicing if we can safely preempt userspace.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Commit message got butchered up somehow so you'll need to fix that at some
> > > > > point.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > 
> > > > > Tvrtko
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Fixes: 8ee36e048c98 ("drm/i915/execlists: Minimalistic timeslicing")
> > > > > > Signed-off-by: Chris Wilson <chris@chris-wilson.co.uk>
> > > > > > Cc: Tvrtko Ursulin <tvrtko.ursulin@intel.com>
> > > > > > Reviewed-by: Tvrtko Ursulin <tvrtko.ursulin@intel.com>
> > > > > > ---
> > > > > >     drivers/gpu/drm/i915/gt/intel_engine_user.c | 1 +
> > > > > >     include/uapi/drm/i915_drm.h                 | 1 +
> > > > > >     2 files changed, 2 insertions(+)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/gt/intel_engine_user.c b/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/gt/intel_engine_user.c
> > > > > > index 3cca7ea2d6ea..12d165566ed2 100644
> > > > > > --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/gt/intel_engine_user.c
> > > > > > +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/gt/intel_engine_user.c
> > > > > > @@ -98,6 +98,7 @@ static void set_scheduler_caps(struct drm_i915_private *i915)
> > > > > >     		MAP(HAS_PREEMPTION, PREEMPTION),
> > > > > >     		MAP(HAS_SEMAPHORES, SEMAPHORES),
> > > > > >     		MAP(SUPPORTS_STATS, ENGINE_BUSY_STATS),
> > > > > > +		MAP(TIMESLICE_BIT, TIMESLICING),
> > > > > >     #undef MAP
> > > > > >     	};
> > > > > >     	struct intel_engine_cs *engine;
> > > > > > diff --git a/include/uapi/drm/i915_drm.h b/include/uapi/drm/i915_drm.h
> > > > > > index c2c7759b7d2e..af2212d6113c 100644
> > > > > > --- a/include/uapi/drm/i915_drm.h
> > > > > > +++ b/include/uapi/drm/i915_drm.h
> > > > > > @@ -572,6 +572,7 @@ typedef struct drm_i915_irq_wait {
> > > > > >     #define   I915_SCHEDULER_CAP_PREEMPTION	(1ul << 2)
> > > > > >     #define   I915_SCHEDULER_CAP_SEMAPHORES	(1ul << 3)
> > > > > >     #define   I915_SCHEDULER_CAP_ENGINE_BUSY_STATS	(1ul << 4)
> > > > > > +#define   I915_SCHEDULER_CAP_TIMESLICING	(1ul << 5)
> > > > 
> > > > Since this is uapi I think we should at least have some nice kerneldoc
> > > > that explains what exactly this is, what for (link to userspace) and all
> > > > that. Ideally also minimally filing in the gaps in our uapi docs for stuff
> > > > this references.
> > > 
> > > IIUC there is no userspace apart from IGT needing it not to fail scheduling
> > > tests on ADL.
> > > 
> > > Current tests use "has preemption + has semaphores" as a proxy to answer the
> > > "does the kernel support timeslicing" question. This stops working with the
> > > Guc backend because GuC decided not to support semaphores (for reasons yet
> > > unknown, see other thread), so explicit "has timeslicing" flag is needed in
> > > order for tests to know that GuC is supposed to support timeslicing, even if
> > > it doesn't use semaphores for inter-ring synchronisation.
> > 
> > Since this if for igt only: Cant we do just extend the check in igt with
> > an || GEN >= 12? I really hope that our future hw will continue to support
> > timeslicing ...
> 
> Not the gen 12 check, but possible I think. Explicit feature test would be better, but if definitely not allowed then along the lines of:
> 
> has_timeslicing =
> 	(has_preemption && has_semaphores) || uses_guc_submission;

That works too. Otoh what exactly is the "uses guc submission" flag and
why do we have that? I've seen media use it as a stand-in for "does the
kernel want bonded or parallel ctx?". Maybe another thing to check.

Another option, if you really think the feature flag is the best approach
(because future hw will drop timeslicing for some reason), then debugfs is
the place of igt-only api.
-Daniel

> 
> Regards,
> 
> Tvrtko
> > Also if it's not there yet, a shared helper to check for that (like we're
> > adding for relocations and stuff like that right now).
> > -Daniel
> > 

-- 
Daniel Vetter
Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
http://blog.ffwll.ch

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* Re: [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 1/1] Let userspace know if they can trust timeslicing by including it as part of the I915_PARAM_HAS_SCHEDULER::I915_SCHEDULER_CAP_TIMESLICING
  2021-05-27 10:27             ` Daniel Vetter
@ 2021-05-27 12:13               ` Tvrtko Ursulin
  2021-06-01 10:09               ` Tvrtko Ursulin
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Tvrtko Ursulin @ 2021-05-27 12:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Daniel Vetter; +Cc: intel-gfx, Tejas Upadhyay, DRI Development, mahesh.meena


On 27/05/2021 11:27, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 11:22:16AM +0100, Tvrtko Ursulin wrote:
>>
>> On 27/05/2021 11:13, Daniel Vetter wrote:
>>> On Wed, May 26, 2021 at 11:20:13AM +0100, Tvrtko Ursulin wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 25/05/2021 15:47, Daniel Vetter wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 03:19:47PM +0100, Tvrtko Ursulin wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> + dri-devel as per process
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 25/05/2021 14:55, Tejas Upadhyay wrote:
>>>>>>> v2: Only declare timeslicing if we can safely preempt userspace.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Commit message got butchered up somehow so you'll need to fix that at some
>>>>>> point.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tvrtko
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Fixes: 8ee36e048c98 ("drm/i915/execlists: Minimalistic timeslicing")
>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Chris Wilson <chris@chris-wilson.co.uk>
>>>>>>> Cc: Tvrtko Ursulin <tvrtko.ursulin@intel.com>
>>>>>>> Reviewed-by: Tvrtko Ursulin <tvrtko.ursulin@intel.com>
>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>      drivers/gpu/drm/i915/gt/intel_engine_user.c | 1 +
>>>>>>>      include/uapi/drm/i915_drm.h                 | 1 +
>>>>>>>      2 files changed, 2 insertions(+)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/gt/intel_engine_user.c b/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/gt/intel_engine_user.c
>>>>>>> index 3cca7ea2d6ea..12d165566ed2 100644
>>>>>>> --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/gt/intel_engine_user.c
>>>>>>> +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/gt/intel_engine_user.c
>>>>>>> @@ -98,6 +98,7 @@ static void set_scheduler_caps(struct drm_i915_private *i915)
>>>>>>>      		MAP(HAS_PREEMPTION, PREEMPTION),
>>>>>>>      		MAP(HAS_SEMAPHORES, SEMAPHORES),
>>>>>>>      		MAP(SUPPORTS_STATS, ENGINE_BUSY_STATS),
>>>>>>> +		MAP(TIMESLICE_BIT, TIMESLICING),
>>>>>>>      #undef MAP
>>>>>>>      	};
>>>>>>>      	struct intel_engine_cs *engine;
>>>>>>> diff --git a/include/uapi/drm/i915_drm.h b/include/uapi/drm/i915_drm.h
>>>>>>> index c2c7759b7d2e..af2212d6113c 100644
>>>>>>> --- a/include/uapi/drm/i915_drm.h
>>>>>>> +++ b/include/uapi/drm/i915_drm.h
>>>>>>> @@ -572,6 +572,7 @@ typedef struct drm_i915_irq_wait {
>>>>>>>      #define   I915_SCHEDULER_CAP_PREEMPTION	(1ul << 2)
>>>>>>>      #define   I915_SCHEDULER_CAP_SEMAPHORES	(1ul << 3)
>>>>>>>      #define   I915_SCHEDULER_CAP_ENGINE_BUSY_STATS	(1ul << 4)
>>>>>>> +#define   I915_SCHEDULER_CAP_TIMESLICING	(1ul << 5)
>>>>>
>>>>> Since this is uapi I think we should at least have some nice kerneldoc
>>>>> that explains what exactly this is, what for (link to userspace) and all
>>>>> that. Ideally also minimally filing in the gaps in our uapi docs for stuff
>>>>> this references.
>>>>
>>>> IIUC there is no userspace apart from IGT needing it not to fail scheduling
>>>> tests on ADL.
>>>>
>>>> Current tests use "has preemption + has semaphores" as a proxy to answer the
>>>> "does the kernel support timeslicing" question. This stops working with the
>>>> Guc backend because GuC decided not to support semaphores (for reasons yet
>>>> unknown, see other thread), so explicit "has timeslicing" flag is needed in
>>>> order for tests to know that GuC is supposed to support timeslicing, even if
>>>> it doesn't use semaphores for inter-ring synchronisation.
>>>
>>> Since this if for igt only: Cant we do just extend the check in igt with
>>> an || GEN >= 12? I really hope that our future hw will continue to support
>>> timeslicing ...
>>
>> Not the gen 12 check, but possible I think. Explicit feature test would be better, but if definitely not allowed then along the lines of:
>>
>> has_timeslicing =
>> 	(has_preemption && has_semaphores) || uses_guc_submission;
> 
> That works too. Otoh what exactly is the "uses guc submission" flag and
> why do we have that? I've seen media use it as a stand-in for "does the
> kernel want bonded or parallel ctx?". Maybe another thing to check.

IGT derives it from the enable_guc modparam and logs it during test 
start (some tests). It's called actuall gem_submission_method(_..). It's 
useful to have as long as there are platforms where submission backend 
can be picked at runtime. Afterwards not so much I guess.

Regards,

Tvrtko

> Another option, if you really think the feature flag is the best approach
> (because future hw will drop timeslicing for some reason), then debugfs is
> the place of igt-only api.
> -Daniel
> 
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Tvrtko
>>> Also if it's not there yet, a shared helper to check for that (like we're
>>> adding for relocations and stuff like that right now).
>>> -Daniel
>>>
> 

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* Re: [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 1/1] Let userspace know if they can trust timeslicing by including it as part of the I915_PARAM_HAS_SCHEDULER::I915_SCHEDULER_CAP_TIMESLICING
  2021-05-27 10:27             ` Daniel Vetter
  2021-05-27 12:13               ` Tvrtko Ursulin
@ 2021-06-01 10:09               ` Tvrtko Ursulin
  2021-06-01 14:25                 ` Daniel Vetter
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Tvrtko Ursulin @ 2021-06-01 10:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Daniel Vetter; +Cc: intel-gfx, Tejas Upadhyay, DRI Development, mahesh.meena


On 27/05/2021 11:27, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 11:22:16AM +0100, Tvrtko Ursulin wrote:
>>
>> On 27/05/2021 11:13, Daniel Vetter wrote:
>>> On Wed, May 26, 2021 at 11:20:13AM +0100, Tvrtko Ursulin wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 25/05/2021 15:47, Daniel Vetter wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 03:19:47PM +0100, Tvrtko Ursulin wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> + dri-devel as per process
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 25/05/2021 14:55, Tejas Upadhyay wrote:
>>>>>>> v2: Only declare timeslicing if we can safely preempt userspace.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Commit message got butchered up somehow so you'll need to fix that at some
>>>>>> point.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tvrtko
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Fixes: 8ee36e048c98 ("drm/i915/execlists: Minimalistic timeslicing")
>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Chris Wilson <chris@chris-wilson.co.uk>
>>>>>>> Cc: Tvrtko Ursulin <tvrtko.ursulin@intel.com>
>>>>>>> Reviewed-by: Tvrtko Ursulin <tvrtko.ursulin@intel.com>
>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>      drivers/gpu/drm/i915/gt/intel_engine_user.c | 1 +
>>>>>>>      include/uapi/drm/i915_drm.h                 | 1 +
>>>>>>>      2 files changed, 2 insertions(+)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/gt/intel_engine_user.c b/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/gt/intel_engine_user.c
>>>>>>> index 3cca7ea2d6ea..12d165566ed2 100644
>>>>>>> --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/gt/intel_engine_user.c
>>>>>>> +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/gt/intel_engine_user.c
>>>>>>> @@ -98,6 +98,7 @@ static void set_scheduler_caps(struct drm_i915_private *i915)
>>>>>>>      		MAP(HAS_PREEMPTION, PREEMPTION),
>>>>>>>      		MAP(HAS_SEMAPHORES, SEMAPHORES),
>>>>>>>      		MAP(SUPPORTS_STATS, ENGINE_BUSY_STATS),
>>>>>>> +		MAP(TIMESLICE_BIT, TIMESLICING),
>>>>>>>      #undef MAP
>>>>>>>      	};
>>>>>>>      	struct intel_engine_cs *engine;
>>>>>>> diff --git a/include/uapi/drm/i915_drm.h b/include/uapi/drm/i915_drm.h
>>>>>>> index c2c7759b7d2e..af2212d6113c 100644
>>>>>>> --- a/include/uapi/drm/i915_drm.h
>>>>>>> +++ b/include/uapi/drm/i915_drm.h
>>>>>>> @@ -572,6 +572,7 @@ typedef struct drm_i915_irq_wait {
>>>>>>>      #define   I915_SCHEDULER_CAP_PREEMPTION	(1ul << 2)
>>>>>>>      #define   I915_SCHEDULER_CAP_SEMAPHORES	(1ul << 3)
>>>>>>>      #define   I915_SCHEDULER_CAP_ENGINE_BUSY_STATS	(1ul << 4)
>>>>>>> +#define   I915_SCHEDULER_CAP_TIMESLICING	(1ul << 5)
>>>>>
>>>>> Since this is uapi I think we should at least have some nice kerneldoc
>>>>> that explains what exactly this is, what for (link to userspace) and all
>>>>> that. Ideally also minimally filing in the gaps in our uapi docs for stuff
>>>>> this references.
>>>>
>>>> IIUC there is no userspace apart from IGT needing it not to fail scheduling
>>>> tests on ADL.
>>>>
>>>> Current tests use "has preemption + has semaphores" as a proxy to answer the
>>>> "does the kernel support timeslicing" question. This stops working with the
>>>> Guc backend because GuC decided not to support semaphores (for reasons yet
>>>> unknown, see other thread), so explicit "has timeslicing" flag is needed in
>>>> order for tests to know that GuC is supposed to support timeslicing, even if
>>>> it doesn't use semaphores for inter-ring synchronisation.
>>>
>>> Since this if for igt only: Cant we do just extend the check in igt with
>>> an || GEN >= 12? I really hope that our future hw will continue to support
>>> timeslicing ...
>>
>> Not the gen 12 check, but possible I think. Explicit feature test would be better, but if definitely not allowed then along the lines of:
>>
>> has_timeslicing =
>> 	(has_preemption && has_semaphores) || uses_guc_submission;
> 
> That works too. Otoh what exactly is the "uses guc submission" flag and
> why do we have that? I've seen media use it as a stand-in for "does the
> kernel want bonded or parallel ctx?". Maybe another thing to check.
> 
> Another option, if you really think the feature flag is the best approach
> (because future hw will drop timeslicing for some reason), then debugfs is
> the place of igt-only api.

Maybe check and potentially remove all I915_SCHEDULER_CAP_.. flags. It 
could be another easy pickings with a lot of IGT work type endeavour.

Regards,

Tvrtko

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* Re: [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 1/1] Let userspace know if they can trust timeslicing by including it as part of the I915_PARAM_HAS_SCHEDULER::I915_SCHEDULER_CAP_TIMESLICING
  2021-06-01 10:09               ` Tvrtko Ursulin
@ 2021-06-01 14:25                 ` Daniel Vetter
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Vetter @ 2021-06-01 14:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Tvrtko Ursulin; +Cc: intel-gfx, Tejas Upadhyay, DRI Development, mahesh.meena

On Tue, Jun 01, 2021 at 11:09:47AM +0100, Tvrtko Ursulin wrote:
> 
> On 27/05/2021 11:27, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> > On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 11:22:16AM +0100, Tvrtko Ursulin wrote:
> > > 
> > > On 27/05/2021 11:13, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> > > > On Wed, May 26, 2021 at 11:20:13AM +0100, Tvrtko Ursulin wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > On 25/05/2021 15:47, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> > > > > > On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 03:19:47PM +0100, Tvrtko Ursulin wrote:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > + dri-devel as per process
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > On 25/05/2021 14:55, Tejas Upadhyay wrote:
> > > > > > > > v2: Only declare timeslicing if we can safely preempt userspace.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Commit message got butchered up somehow so you'll need to fix that at some
> > > > > > > point.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Tvrtko
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Fixes: 8ee36e048c98 ("drm/i915/execlists: Minimalistic timeslicing")
> > > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Chris Wilson <chris@chris-wilson.co.uk>
> > > > > > > > Cc: Tvrtko Ursulin <tvrtko.ursulin@intel.com>
> > > > > > > > Reviewed-by: Tvrtko Ursulin <tvrtko.ursulin@intel.com>
> > > > > > > > ---
> > > > > > > >      drivers/gpu/drm/i915/gt/intel_engine_user.c | 1 +
> > > > > > > >      include/uapi/drm/i915_drm.h                 | 1 +
> > > > > > > >      2 files changed, 2 insertions(+)
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/gt/intel_engine_user.c b/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/gt/intel_engine_user.c
> > > > > > > > index 3cca7ea2d6ea..12d165566ed2 100644
> > > > > > > > --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/gt/intel_engine_user.c
> > > > > > > > +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/gt/intel_engine_user.c
> > > > > > > > @@ -98,6 +98,7 @@ static void set_scheduler_caps(struct drm_i915_private *i915)
> > > > > > > >      		MAP(HAS_PREEMPTION, PREEMPTION),
> > > > > > > >      		MAP(HAS_SEMAPHORES, SEMAPHORES),
> > > > > > > >      		MAP(SUPPORTS_STATS, ENGINE_BUSY_STATS),
> > > > > > > > +		MAP(TIMESLICE_BIT, TIMESLICING),
> > > > > > > >      #undef MAP
> > > > > > > >      	};
> > > > > > > >      	struct intel_engine_cs *engine;
> > > > > > > > diff --git a/include/uapi/drm/i915_drm.h b/include/uapi/drm/i915_drm.h
> > > > > > > > index c2c7759b7d2e..af2212d6113c 100644
> > > > > > > > --- a/include/uapi/drm/i915_drm.h
> > > > > > > > +++ b/include/uapi/drm/i915_drm.h
> > > > > > > > @@ -572,6 +572,7 @@ typedef struct drm_i915_irq_wait {
> > > > > > > >      #define   I915_SCHEDULER_CAP_PREEMPTION	(1ul << 2)
> > > > > > > >      #define   I915_SCHEDULER_CAP_SEMAPHORES	(1ul << 3)
> > > > > > > >      #define   I915_SCHEDULER_CAP_ENGINE_BUSY_STATS	(1ul << 4)
> > > > > > > > +#define   I915_SCHEDULER_CAP_TIMESLICING	(1ul << 5)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Since this is uapi I think we should at least have some nice kerneldoc
> > > > > > that explains what exactly this is, what for (link to userspace) and all
> > > > > > that. Ideally also minimally filing in the gaps in our uapi docs for stuff
> > > > > > this references.
> > > > > 
> > > > > IIUC there is no userspace apart from IGT needing it not to fail scheduling
> > > > > tests on ADL.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Current tests use "has preemption + has semaphores" as a proxy to answer the
> > > > > "does the kernel support timeslicing" question. This stops working with the
> > > > > Guc backend because GuC decided not to support semaphores (for reasons yet
> > > > > unknown, see other thread), so explicit "has timeslicing" flag is needed in
> > > > > order for tests to know that GuC is supposed to support timeslicing, even if
> > > > > it doesn't use semaphores for inter-ring synchronisation.
> > > > 
> > > > Since this if for igt only: Cant we do just extend the check in igt with
> > > > an || GEN >= 12? I really hope that our future hw will continue to support
> > > > timeslicing ...
> > > 
> > > Not the gen 12 check, but possible I think. Explicit feature test would be better, but if definitely not allowed then along the lines of:
> > > 
> > > has_timeslicing =
> > > 	(has_preemption && has_semaphores) || uses_guc_submission;
> > 
> > That works too. Otoh what exactly is the "uses guc submission" flag and
> > why do we have that? I've seen media use it as a stand-in for "does the
> > kernel want bonded or parallel ctx?". Maybe another thing to check.
> > 
> > Another option, if you really think the feature flag is the best approach
> > (because future hw will drop timeslicing for some reason), then debugfs is
> > the place of igt-only api.
> 
> Maybe check and potentially remove all I915_SCHEDULER_CAP_.. flags. It could
> be another easy pickings with a lot of IGT work type endeavour.

Yeah there's a lot unfortunately. I'll make a note internally that we need
to look at this again maybe next year, but for now we're going to only
concentrate on stuff that has actual architecture/design impact. In the
grand scheme of things exporting a bunch of flags for igt in the uapi is
mostly harmless. There's much bigger fish to fry were we allow igt to make
changes to objects that should be all immutable. Those need to be worked
out first.
-Daniel
-- 
Daniel Vetter
Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
http://blog.ffwll.ch

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* Re: [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 1/1] Let userspace know if they can trust timeslicing by including it as part of the I915_PARAM_HAS_SCHEDULER::I915_SCHEDULER_CAP_TIMESLICING
  2021-05-27 10:22           ` Tvrtko Ursulin
  2021-05-27 10:27             ` Daniel Vetter
@ 2021-06-04 12:53             ` Tvrtko Ursulin
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Tvrtko Ursulin @ 2021-06-04 12:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Daniel Vetter; +Cc: intel-gfx, Tejas Upadhyay, DRI Development, mahesh.meena


On 27/05/2021 11:22, Tvrtko Ursulin wrote:
> 
> On 27/05/2021 11:13, Daniel Vetter wrote:
>> On Wed, May 26, 2021 at 11:20:13AM +0100, Tvrtko Ursulin wrote:
>>>
>>> On 25/05/2021 15:47, Daniel Vetter wrote:
>>>> On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 03:19:47PM +0100, Tvrtko Ursulin wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> + dri-devel as per process
>>>>>
>>>>> On 25/05/2021 14:55, Tejas Upadhyay wrote:
>>>>>> v2: Only declare timeslicing if we can safely preempt userspace.
>>>>>
>>>>> Commit message got butchered up somehow so you'll need to fix that 
>>>>> at some
>>>>> point.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Tvrtko
>>>>>
>>>>>> Fixes: 8ee36e048c98 ("drm/i915/execlists: Minimalistic timeslicing")
>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Chris Wilson <chris@chris-wilson.co.uk>
>>>>>> Cc: Tvrtko Ursulin <tvrtko.ursulin@intel.com>
>>>>>> Reviewed-by: Tvrtko Ursulin <tvrtko.ursulin@intel.com>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>     drivers/gpu/drm/i915/gt/intel_engine_user.c | 1 +
>>>>>>     include/uapi/drm/i915_drm.h                 | 1 +
>>>>>>     2 files changed, 2 insertions(+)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/gt/intel_engine_user.c 
>>>>>> b/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/gt/intel_engine_user.c
>>>>>> index 3cca7ea2d6ea..12d165566ed2 100644
>>>>>> --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/gt/intel_engine_user.c
>>>>>> +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/gt/intel_engine_user.c
>>>>>> @@ -98,6 +98,7 @@ static void set_scheduler_caps(struct 
>>>>>> drm_i915_private *i915)
>>>>>>             MAP(HAS_PREEMPTION, PREEMPTION),
>>>>>>             MAP(HAS_SEMAPHORES, SEMAPHORES),
>>>>>>             MAP(SUPPORTS_STATS, ENGINE_BUSY_STATS),
>>>>>> +        MAP(TIMESLICE_BIT, TIMESLICING),
>>>>>>     #undef MAP
>>>>>>         };
>>>>>>         struct intel_engine_cs *engine;
>>>>>> diff --git a/include/uapi/drm/i915_drm.h 
>>>>>> b/include/uapi/drm/i915_drm.h
>>>>>> index c2c7759b7d2e..af2212d6113c 100644
>>>>>> --- a/include/uapi/drm/i915_drm.h
>>>>>> +++ b/include/uapi/drm/i915_drm.h
>>>>>> @@ -572,6 +572,7 @@ typedef struct drm_i915_irq_wait {
>>>>>>     #define   I915_SCHEDULER_CAP_PREEMPTION    (1ul << 2)
>>>>>>     #define   I915_SCHEDULER_CAP_SEMAPHORES    (1ul << 3)
>>>>>>     #define   I915_SCHEDULER_CAP_ENGINE_BUSY_STATS    (1ul << 4)
>>>>>> +#define   I915_SCHEDULER_CAP_TIMESLICING    (1ul << 5)
>>>>
>>>> Since this is uapi I think we should at least have some nice kerneldoc
>>>> that explains what exactly this is, what for (link to userspace) and 
>>>> all
>>>> that. Ideally also minimally filing in the gaps in our uapi docs for 
>>>> stuff
>>>> this references.
>>>
>>> IIUC there is no userspace apart from IGT needing it not to fail 
>>> scheduling
>>> tests on ADL.
>>>
>>> Current tests use "has preemption + has semaphores" as a proxy to 
>>> answer the
>>> "does the kernel support timeslicing" question. This stops working 
>>> with the
>>> Guc backend because GuC decided not to support semaphores (for 
>>> reasons yet
>>> unknown, see other thread), so explicit "has timeslicing" flag is 
>>> needed in
>>> order for tests to know that GuC is supposed to support timeslicing, 
>>> even if
>>> it doesn't use semaphores for inter-ring synchronisation.
>>
>> Since this if for igt only: Cant we do just extend the check in igt with
>> an || GEN >= 12? I really hope that our future hw will continue to 
>> support
>> timeslicing ...
> 
> Not the gen 12 check, but possible I think. Explicit feature test would 
> be better, but if definitely not allowed then along the lines of:
> 
> has_timeslicing =
>      (has_preemption && has_semaphores) || uses_guc_submission;

One catch is that timeslicing in GuC will be disabled both if at compile 
time CONFIG_DRM_I915_TIMESLICE_DURATION is set to zero, or if at runtime 
engine->props.timeslice_duration_ms is equally set to zero.

So I think what is needed on top of the above check is to walk all 
engines in sysfs and check that timeslicing hasn't explicitly been 
disabled for any one of them.

If we are talking about the global flag at least. Per engine tests could 
do better I guess, but I don't think that complication is worth the effort.

Regards,

Tvrtko

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2021-05-25 14:47     ` Daniel Vetter
2021-05-26 10:20       ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2021-05-27 10:13         ` Daniel Vetter
2021-05-27 10:22           ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2021-05-27 10:27             ` Daniel Vetter
2021-05-27 12:13               ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2021-06-01 10:09               ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2021-06-01 14:25                 ` Daniel Vetter
2021-06-04 12:53             ` Tvrtko Ursulin

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