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From: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
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Subject: RE: [PATCH v2 07/11] vfio-iommufd: Support iommufd for physical VFIO devices
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2022 23:58:05 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <BN9PR11MB527683EBFF79A8DAD22E1DF58C019@BN9PR11MB5276.namprd11.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y20y6MnCn+pqXcnI@nvidia.com>

> From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2022 1:21 AM
> 
> On Thu, Nov 10, 2022 at 03:11:16AM +0000, Tian, Kevin wrote:
> > > From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2022 8:53 AM
> > >
> > > +
> > > +int vfio_iommufd_bind(struct vfio_device *vdev, struct iommufd_ctx
> *ictx)
> > > +{
> > > +	u32 ioas_id;
> > > +	u32 device_id;
> > > +	int ret;
> > > +
> > > +	lockdep_assert_held(&vdev->dev_set->lock);
> > > +
> > > +	/*
> > > +	 * If the driver doesn't provide this op then it means the device does
> > > +	 * not do DMA at all. So nothing to do.
> > > +	 */
> > > +	if (!vdev->ops->bind_iommufd)
> > > +		return 0;
> > > +
> > > +	ret = vdev->ops->bind_iommufd(vdev, ictx, &device_id);
> > > +	if (ret)
> > > +		return ret;
> > > +
> > > +	ret = iommufd_vfio_compat_ioas_id(ictx, &ioas_id);
> > > +	if (ret)
> > > +		goto err_unbind;
> > > +	ret = vdev->ops->attach_ioas(vdev, &ioas_id);
> > > +	if (ret)
> > > +		goto err_unbind;
> >
> > with our discussion in v1:
> >
> > https://lore.kernel.org/all/Y2mgJqz8fvm54C+f@nvidia.com/
> >
> > I got the rationale on iommufd part which doesn't have the concept
> > of container hence not necessarily to impose restriction on when
> > an user can change a compat ioas.
> >
> > But from vfio side I wonder whether we should cache the compat
> > ioas id when it's attached by the first device and then use it all the
> > way for other device attachments coming after. implying IOAS_SET
> > only affects containers which haven't been attached.
> 
> I can't see a reason to do this. IOAS_SET is a new ioctl and it has
> new semantics beyond what original vfio container could do. In this
> case having an impact on the next vfio_device that is opened.
> 
> This seems generally useful enough I wouldn't want to block it.
> 
> In any case, we can't *really* change this because the vfio layer is
> working on IDs and the IDs can be destroyed/recreated from under
> it. So if we try to hold the ID we could still end up getting it
> changed anyhow.
> 

OK, this is a valid point.

So a legacy vfio application doesn't use IOAS_SET so the backward
compatibility is guaranteed.

a iommufd native application will use cdev where IOAS_SET and
compat ioas are irrelevant.

here just we allow an interesting usage where an user is allowed
to do more funny things with IOAS_SET on vfio-compat. Not sure
how useful it is but not something we want to prohibit.


  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-10 23:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-08  0:52 [PATCH v2 00/11] Connect VFIO to IOMMUFD Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-08  0:52 ` [PATCH v2 01/11] vfio: Move vfio_device driver open/close code to a function Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-08  0:52 ` [PATCH v2 02/11] vfio: Move vfio_device_assign_container() into vfio_device_first_open() Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-08  0:52 ` [PATCH v2 03/11] vfio: Rename vfio_device_assign/unassign_container() Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-08  0:52 ` [PATCH v2 04/11] vfio: Move storage of allow_unsafe_interrupts to vfio_main.c Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-08  0:52 ` [PATCH v2 05/11] vfio: Use IOMMU_CAP_ENFORCE_CACHE_COHERENCY for vfio_file_enforced_coherent() Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-10  2:48   ` Tian, Kevin
2022-11-08  0:52 ` [PATCH v2 06/11] vfio-iommufd: Allow iommufd to be used in place of a container fd Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-10  2:51   ` Tian, Kevin
2022-11-08  0:52 ` [PATCH v2 07/11] vfio-iommufd: Support iommufd for physical VFIO devices Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-08  6:10   ` Nicolin Chen
2022-11-08  7:41     ` Yi Liu
2022-11-08 17:51       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-10  3:12         ` Tian, Kevin
2022-11-08 17:48     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-10  3:11   ` Tian, Kevin
2022-11-10 17:20     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-10 23:58       ` Tian, Kevin [this message]
2022-11-11  4:12   ` Yi Liu
2022-11-14 14:47     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-08  0:52 ` [PATCH v2 08/11] vfio-iommufd: Support iommufd for emulated " Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-10  5:33   ` Tian, Kevin
2022-11-08  0:52 ` [PATCH v2 09/11] vfio: Move container related MODULE_ALIAS statements into container.c Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-10  5:34   ` Tian, Kevin
2022-11-11  4:13   ` Yi Liu
2022-11-08  0:52 ` [PATCH v2 10/11] vfio: Make vfio_container optionally compiled Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-08 22:28   ` Alex Williamson
2022-11-09  0:54     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-09 17:18       ` Alex Williamson
2022-11-09 19:52         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-10  6:57           ` Tian, Kevin
2022-11-10 17:10             ` Alex Williamson
2022-11-10 17:52             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-08  0:52 ` [PATCH v2 11/11] iommufd: Allow iommufd to supply /dev/vfio/vfio Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-10  7:01   ` Tian, Kevin
2022-11-11  4:16   ` Yi Liu
2022-11-11  6:38     ` Yi Liu
2022-11-14 14:50     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-08  9:19 ` [PATCH v2 00/11] Connect VFIO to IOMMUFD Nicolin Chen
2022-11-08 15:18   ` Yi Liu
2022-11-09 16:57     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-14 12:51       ` Yi Liu
2022-11-14 14:37         ` Yang, Lixiao
2022-11-15  5:41           ` He, Yu
2022-11-14 14:38         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-14 14:42           ` Yi Liu
2022-11-15  1:16       ` Matthew Rosato
2022-11-09  9:03 ` Tian, Kevin
2022-11-09 12:48   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-10  2:16     ` Tian, Kevin
2022-11-11  3:01 ` Matthew Rosato
2022-11-14 14:23   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-14 14:55     ` Matthew Rosato
2022-11-14 14:59       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-14 15:21         ` Matthew Rosato
2022-11-14 19:27           ` Jason Gunthorpe

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