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From: Karol Herbst <kherbst@redhat.com>
To: Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@gmail.com>
Cc: James Jones <jajones@nvidia.com>,
	Thierry Reding <treding@nvidia.com>,
	Alyssa Rosenzweig <alyssa.rosenzweig@collabora.com>,
	dri-devel <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>
Subject: Re: [git pull] drm for 5.8-rc1
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2020 18:12:56 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACO55tvzoCBNvvnrzn9fSQZwB-hXPPApFMkbJ+ZGWDHgkgkJTw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200814160631.GI556087@ulmo>

On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 6:06 PM Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 05:40:34PM +0200, Karol Herbst wrote:
> > On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 5:35 PM Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 04:44:43PM +0200, Karol Herbst wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 4:05 PM Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 10:45:34AM -0700, James Jones wrote:
> > > > > > I'll defer to Thierry, but I think that may be by design.  Tegra format
> > > > > > modifiers were added to get things like this working in the first place,
> > > > > > right?  It's not a regression, is it?
> > > > >
> > > > > I recall that things used to work with or without modifiers at some
> > > > > point. That was basically the point of the "pitch-linear by default"
> > > > > patch, see:
> > > > >
> > > > >     https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/commit/9603d81df05105857b676f20dff964ef3ab0ecff
> > > > >
> > > > > If we don't force pitch-linear for cases where we don't have modifiers,
> > > > > there's no way we can properly display these as framebuffers because we
> > > > > lack the modifier information at the kernel level.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > I suspect that's related to
> > > > https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/commit/c56fe4118a2dd991ff1b2a532c0f234eddd435e9
> > >
> > > But we're checking the the PIPE_USAGE_SCANOUT flag specifically for that
> > > type of case, so this should work. On the other hand, it does sound like
> > > that logic might actually work, but for some reason Nouveau then ends up
> > > allocating a linear render buffer and a tiled depth buffer, and that's
> > > the combination that doesn't work. Did I understand that correctly?
> > >
> > > So it sounds like there's a few options:
> > >
> > >   a) Make Nouveau render without a depth buffer in these cases (not sure
> > >      if that's even possible).
> > >
> > >   b) Allocate a linear buffer *in addition* to the normal buffer that
> > >      Nouveau allocates (with whatever it selects as the default layout)
> > >      and then blit from the tiled buffer to the linear buffer everytime
> > >      we need to. I think that'd be basically reproducing the code that
> > >      is controlled by the DRI_PRIME environment variable.
> > >
> >
> > yeah, I think Ilia suggested something like that a long time ago as well.
> >
> > >   c) Accept that modifiers are the way to go and rely on them for proper
> > >      functionality. This is obviously a really bad solution because not
> > >      everyone has transitioned to framebuffer modifiers yet. On the
> > >      other hand, this is precisely the kind of use-case that framebuffer
> > >      modifiers were meant to address, so it isn't all that far-fetched
> > >      to make them a requirement.
> > >
> >
> > the problem with that is, that by default we don't have modifier aware
> > desktops. gnome-shell by default and no Xorg release.
> >
> > > None of those are really great options... does anyone have any other
> > > ideas?
> > >
> >
> > What I am wondering about is why with my patch it simply works in X,
> > but that could be a mere coincidence.
>
> So I was testing your revert with Weston and that "works", but only as
> in "it doesn't crash". As expected, since there's now a mismatch between
> what layout Nouveau assumes and the pitch-linear buffer that modesetting
> assumes it got, it'll now be completely scrambled. That said, even
> without the revert I can't seem to be able to make Weston work without
> modifiers support.
>

yeah, that does seem to reproduce what I noticed with
gnome-shell/wayland as well.

> I'll have to investigate some more why that's not working. Perhaps it
> doesn't pass the correct usage flags?
>
> Thierry

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  reply	other threads:[~2020-08-14 16:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-02  6:06 [git pull] drm for 5.8-rc1 Dave Airlie
2020-06-02 21:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-06-02 21:22   ` Linus Torvalds
2020-06-02 21:56   ` Linus Torvalds
2020-06-03  7:18     ` Thomas Zimmermann
2020-06-03  7:43       ` Daniel Vetter
2020-06-02 22:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-06-02 23:03   ` Dave Airlie
2020-06-02 22:20 ` pr-tracker-bot
2020-06-03 20:13 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-06-04  8:10   ` Christian König
2020-06-30 23:08 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2020-07-01  4:40   ` James Jones
2020-07-01  7:57     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2020-07-01  7:59       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2020-07-01 19:45         ` James Jones
2020-07-02  7:36           ` Daniel Vetter
2020-07-02  7:59           ` Pekka Paalanen
2020-07-02  8:22           ` Daniel Stone
2020-07-02 21:14             ` James Jones
2020-07-03  6:01               ` James Jones
2020-07-03  7:16                 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-07-13  1:37                   ` Dave Airlie
2020-07-14 14:31                     ` James Jones
2020-08-04  8:58                       ` Karol Herbst
2020-08-12  0:19                         ` James Jones
2020-08-12 10:27                           ` Karol Herbst
2020-08-12 10:43                             ` Karol Herbst
2020-08-12 12:24                               ` Karol Herbst
2020-08-12 12:37                                 ` Ilia Mirkin
2020-08-12 17:03                                   ` James Jones
2020-08-12 17:10                                     ` Karol Herbst
2020-08-12 17:19                                       ` James Jones
2020-08-12 17:40                                         ` Alyssa Rosenzweig
2020-08-12 18:24                                           ` James Jones
2020-08-12 18:51                                             ` Karol Herbst
2020-08-13 13:00                                               ` Karol Herbst
2020-08-13 15:39                                                 ` Karol Herbst
2020-08-13 17:19                                                   ` Karol Herbst
2020-08-13 17:45                                                     ` James Jones
2020-08-13 17:48                                                       ` Karol Herbst
2020-08-14 13:57                                                         ` Thierry Reding
2020-08-14 13:59                                                           ` Karol Herbst
2020-08-14 14:10                                                             ` Thierry Reding
2020-08-14 14:05                                                       ` Thierry Reding
2020-08-14 14:44                                                         ` Karol Herbst
2020-08-14 15:34                                                           ` Thierry Reding
2020-08-14 15:40                                                             ` Karol Herbst
2020-08-14 16:06                                                               ` Thierry Reding
2020-08-14 16:12                                                                 ` Karol Herbst [this message]
2020-08-14 16:22                                                                   ` Thierry Reding
2020-08-14 17:17                                                                     ` Daniel Stone
2020-08-14 17:25                                                                       ` Daniel Vetter
2020-08-18 14:37                                                                         ` Thierry Reding
2020-09-01  7:13                                                                           ` Daniel Vetter
2020-09-01 10:42                                                                             ` Daniel Stone
2020-09-01 10:59                                                                             ` Karol Herbst
2020-09-01 14:42                                                                               ` James Jones
2020-08-14 14:08                                                   ` Thierry Reding
2020-08-14 14:45                                                     ` Karol Herbst
2020-08-14 15:24                                                       ` Thierry Reding
2020-08-14 15:43                                                         ` Karol Herbst
2020-08-14 13:54                                                 ` Thierry Reding
2020-08-14 13:40                                     ` Thierry Reding
2020-08-14 13:56                                       ` Karol Herbst
2020-08-12 15:05                               ` Thierry Reding
2020-08-12 15:20                                 ` Karol Herbst
2020-08-12 15:49                                   ` Karol Herbst
2020-07-01 11:24     ` Karol Herbst
2020-07-01 15:51       ` James Jones
2020-07-01 16:01         ` Daniel Vetter
2020-07-01 17:04           ` Karol Herbst
2020-07-01 17:37             ` James Jones
2020-07-01 18:08               ` Karol Herbst

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