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From: Mario Kleiner <mario.kleiner.de@gmail.com>
To: Alex Deucher <alexdeucher@gmail.com>
Cc: Alex Deucher <alexander.deucher@amd.com>,
	dri-devel <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	amd-gfx list <amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	Nicholas Kazlauskas <nicholas.kazlauskas@amd.com>
Subject: Re: 16 bpc fixed point (RGBA16) framebuffer support for core and AMD.
Date: Wed, 5 May 2021 16:01:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAEsyxyistPRDs5tYNx5yN5pNs_QymXPf9tEyoVvOYZbmeEAq1g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADnq5_NgkXaV2s6K5cq6yijg0cT+a6ySdg33z5imYkt6n89grg@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 9:22 PM Alex Deucher <alexdeucher@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 5:21 PM Alex Deucher <alexdeucher@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 5:25 PM Alex Deucher <alexdeucher@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 12:29 PM Mario Kleiner
> > > <mario.kleiner.de@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Friendly ping to the AMD people. Nicholas, Harry, Alex, any feedback?
> > > > Would be great to get this in sooner than later.
> > > >
> > >
> > > No objections from me.
> > >
> >
> > I don't have any objections to merging this.  Are the IGT tests available?
> >
>
> Any preference on whether I merge this through the AMD tree or drm-misc?
>
> Alex
>

Hi Alex, in case the question is addressed to myself: I prefer
whatever gets it into drm-next asap, so we can sync the drm_fourcc.h
headers from drm-next to the IGT tests, libdrm, amdvlk etc.

Another thing:Unless this would still make it into the Linux 5.13
merge window, we'd also need a KMS_DRIVER_MINOR bump 41 -> 42. This
way amdgpu-pro's Vulkan driver could know about the new 16 bpc pixel
formats for the out of tree amdgpu-dkms package when running against
older kernels.

thanks,
-mario

>
> > Alex
> >
> > > Alex
> > >
> > >
> > > > Thanks and have a nice weekend,
> > > > -mario
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 10:03 PM Mario Kleiner
> > > > <mario.kleiner.de@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > this patch series adds the fourcc's for 16 bit fixed point unorm
> > > > > framebuffers to the core, and then an implementation for AMD gpu's
> > > > > with DisplayCore.
> > > > >
> > > > > This is intended to allow for pageflipping to, and direct scanout of,
> > > > > Vulkan swapchain images in the format VK_FORMAT_R16G16B16A16_UNORM.
> > > > > I have patched AMD's GPUOpen amdvlk OSS driver to enable this format
> > > > > for swapchains, mapping to DRM_FORMAT_XBGR16161616:
> > > > > Link: https://github.com/kleinerm/pal/commit/a25d4802074b13a8d5f7edc96ae45469ecbac3c4
> > > > >
> > > > > My main motivation for this is squeezing every bit of precision
> > > > > out of the hardware for scientific and medical research applications,
> > > > > where fp16 in the unorm range is limited to ~11 bpc effective linear
> > > > > precision in the upper half [0.5;1.0] of the unorm range, although
> > > > > the hardware could do at least 12 bpc.
> > > > >
> > > > > It has been successfully tested on AMD RavenRidge (DCN-1), and with
> > > > > Polaris11 (DCE-11.2). Up to two displays were active on RavenRidge
> > > > > (DP 2560x1440@144Hz + HDMI 2560x1440@120Hz), the maximum supported
> > > > > on my hw, both running at 10 bpc DP output depth.
> > > > >
> > > > > Up to three displays were active on the Polaris (DP 2560x1440@144Hz +
> > > > > 2560x1440@100Hz USB-C DP-altMode-to-HDMI converter + eDP 2880x1800@60Hz
> > > > > Apple Retina panel), all running at 10 bpc output depth.
> > > > >
> > > > > No malfunctions, visual artifacts or other oddities were observed
> > > > > (apart from an adventureous mess of cables and adapters on my desk),
> > > > > suggesting it works.
> > > > >
> > > > > I used my automatic photometer measurement procedure to verify the
> > > > > effective output precision of 10 bpc DP native signal + spatial
> > > > > dithering in the gpu as enabled by the amdgpu driver. Results show
> > > > > the expected 12 bpc precision i hoped for -- the current upper limit
> > > > > for AMD display hw afaik.
> > > > >
> > > > > So it seems to work in the way i hoped :).
> > > > >
> > > > > Some open questions wrt. AMD DC, to be addressed in this patch series, or follow up
> > > > > patches if neccessary:
> > > > >
> > > > > - For the atomic check for plane scaling, the current patch will
> > > > > apply the same hw limits as for other rgb fixed point fb's, e.g.,
> > > > > for 8 bpc rgb8. Is this correct? Or would we need to use the fp16
> > > > > limits, because this is also a 64 bpp format? Or something new
> > > > > entirely?
> > > > >
> > > > > - I haven't added the new fourcc to the DCC tables yet. Should i?
> > > > >
> > > > > - I had to change an assert for DCE to allow 36bpp linebuffers (patch 4/5).
> > > > > It looks to me as if that assert was inconsistent with other places
> > > > > in the driver where COLOR_DEPTH121212 is supported, and looking at
> > > > > the code, the change seems harmless. At least on DCE-11.2 the change
> > > > > didn't cause any noticeable (by myself) or measurable (by my equipment)
> > > > > problems on any of the 3 connected displays.
> > > > >
> > > > > - Related to that change, while i needed to increase lb pixelsize to 36bpp
> > > > > to get > 10 bpc effective precision on DCN, i didn't need to do that
> > > > > on DCE. Also no change of lb pixelsize was needed on either DCN or DCe
> > > > > to get > 10 bpc precision for fp16 framebuffers, so something seems to
> > > > > behave differently for floating point 16 vs. fixed point 16. This all
> > > > > seems to suggest one could leave lb pixelsize at the old 30 bpp value
> > > > > on at least DCE-11.2 and still get the > 10 bpc precision if one wanted
> > > > > to avoid the changes of patch 4/5.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > -mario
> > > > >
> > > > >
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Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-19 21:03 16 bpc fixed point (RGBA16) framebuffer support for core and AMD Mario Kleiner
2021-03-19 21:03 ` [PATCH 1/5] drm/fourcc: Add 16 bpc fixed point framebuffer formats Mario Kleiner
2021-03-19 21:16   ` Ville Syrjälä
2021-03-19 21:45     ` Mario Kleiner
2021-03-20  2:09       ` Ville Syrjälä
2021-05-06  6:37         ` Ville Syrjälä
2021-05-13 19:27           ` Mario Kleiner
2021-03-19 21:03 ` [PATCH 2/5] drm/amd/display: Add support for SURFACE_PIXEL_FORMAT_GRPH_ABGR16161616 Mario Kleiner
2021-03-19 21:03 ` [PATCH 3/5] drm/amd/display: Increase linebuffer pixel depth to 36bpp Mario Kleiner
2021-03-19 21:03 ` [PATCH 4/5] drm/amd/display: Make assert in DCE's program_bit_depth_reduction more lenient Mario Kleiner
2021-03-19 21:03 ` [PATCH 5/5] drm/amd/display: Enable support for 16 bpc fixed-point framebuffers Mario Kleiner
2021-03-22 15:52 ` 16 bpc fixed point (RGBA16) framebuffer support for core and AMD Ville Syrjälä
2021-04-16 16:27   ` Mario Kleiner
2021-04-16 17:31     ` Ville Syrjälä
2021-04-16 16:29 ` Mario Kleiner
2021-04-20 21:25   ` Alex Deucher
2021-04-28 21:21     ` Alex Deucher
2021-05-04 19:22       ` Alex Deucher
2021-05-05 14:01         ` Mario Kleiner [this message]
2021-05-06  0:33       ` Mario Kleiner

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